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Old 04-03-2011, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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We need to get that top tax rate back to at least 1980 levels to straighten out this country.
No, it should be kept in the 30% bracket. It is what is best for the people and the economy.

A 50% (or higher) tax rate is ridiculous and unfair for U.S. taxpayers.
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Old 04-03-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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No, it should be kept in the 30% bracket. It is what is best for the people and the economy.

A 50% (or higher) tax rate is ridiculous and unfair for U.S. taxpayers.

In 1980 the top 1% TOOK 9% of the total income in 2007 the top 1% TOOK 23%. That 14 % extra they took no SS taxes are paid on.

Now SS is in trouble, no sir get them taxes up where they belong 70% or higher.
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Old 04-03-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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What you may feel is Constitutional inconsistency, someone else may feel is Constitutional consistency. To disrespect someones else opinion, does not reflect poorly on the person you disrespect.
"Feelings" have nothing to do with adhering to the Constitution. The words are quite clear, quite objective. Political moderates are wishy washy and ruled by "feelings" rather than objective to the clearly deliniated Constitutional limits of the federal government.
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Old 04-03-2011, 04:06 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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"Feelings" have nothing to do with adhering to the Constitution. The words are quite clear, quite objective. Political moderates are wishy washy and ruled by "feelings" rather than objective to the clearly deliniated Constitutional limits of the federal government.
Okay. Put down the kool-aid for a minute. Moderates are not inherently wishy-washy. Some *gasp!* actually have a mixture of liberal and conservative views. And they've thought about them too. Hard to grasp, I know, but try to wrap your head around it sometime when you're not watching Fox News.
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Old 04-03-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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It seems like everyone is either a "forget everyone else but me" Tea Partier or a "tax the rich until urban problems are all solved" progressive.

What happened to the JFK/Nelson Rockefeller style moderates in America?
I see it quite different i that progressicve say forget everyone but my special inetrest groups.i want it free. But I think the defciit for the first time emans that fiscal conservative policy are comig one way or the otehr.people scream about the budget cuts are roudg nubers now, Stopig the riase in debt ceitkig alone will cause more cut choices than naythg now.We cannot just keep kiciking the can down the road for our children and grand children to pay and suffer.We can't eapect for such a small per centage to pay for entitlemnts of such large groups ;we need to live closer to what we take in while makig sure we have investment to supply jobs and a future forthem also. Not suck GDP tot eh point hat they face higher and higherr unemployment;thru continuing to borrow 40 cents out of every dollar government spends.
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Old 04-03-2011, 05:40 PM
 
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I don't believe moderates even exist. Even on the Internet where people can be anyone they choose, the laughably left and ridiculously right all claim to be moderate. Even the most insane people think they are level headed and rational.
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Old 04-03-2011, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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In 1980 the top 1% TOOK 9% of the total income in 2007 the top 1% TOOK 23%. That 14 % extra they took no SS taxes are paid on.

Now SS is in trouble, no sir get them taxes up where they belong 70% or higher.
A higher tax rate is not the answer; less spending is. In other words, the government should not spend more than it receives in revenue.
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Old 04-03-2011, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Brushy Creek
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My assertion is the biggest problem with America today is the accumulation of wealth by the top 1% to the destruction of the rest in the country. I believe that if that rate was still at 90% the jobs would not have gone overseas because there would have been no benefit to the top 1%.
It's not the accumulation, no matter where and how it occurs, it's the loopholes that allow for non-taxation that is the problem. I'm all for everyone, everywhere to get rich, but they must also pay their share. I despise Neal Boortz for his ignorance in world affairs but agree with him on the fair tax issue.
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Old 04-03-2011, 06:56 PM
 
Location: NC
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"Feelings" have nothing to do with adhering to the Constitution. The words are quite clear, quite objective. Political moderates are wishy washy and ruled by "feelings" rather than objective to the clearly deliniated Constitutional limits of the federal government.
If you think the words of the Constitution are clear and objective you haven't thought about it enough.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:54 AM
 
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A higher tax rate is not the answer; less spending is. In other words, the government should not spend more than it receives in revenue.
Your talking oranges.
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