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You mean all these years and you're not aware the president ALWAYS submits a budget?
The President does not always submit a budget. That tradition began with President Wilson. He was the first President to submit a proposed budget to Congress. No other President prior to Wilson did so.
djmilf is quite correct, the House originates all appropriation bills, but the Senate can amend them as any other bill. Also, as florida.bob correctly pointed out, no proposed budget by any President has ever passed the House much less Congress and none ever will, because it is not the President's constitutional responsibility to submit a proposed budget.
And no where does the GOP talk about ending tax handouts for corporations. In fact, on TV the other night, Tea folks who were elected to Congress defended their receiving agricultural subsidies. Only one said he would refuse them.
The President does not always submit a budget. That tradition began with President Wilson. He was the first President to submit a proposed budget to Congress. No other President prior to Wilson did so.
Here we go.. Liberals now supporting the cutting of federal spending.
We can now completely abolish the Office of Management and Budget.. I wonder how much MORE this will save..
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djmilf is quite correct, the House originates all appropriation bills, but the Senate can amend them as any other bill. Also, as florida.bob correctly pointed out, no proposed budget by any President has ever passed the House much less Congress and none ever will, because it is not the President's constitutional responsibility to submit a proposed budget.
My my my, we all have short memories..
The House budget largely tracks Obama's initial proposed spending plan, with the exception of a decision to drop his $250 billion request for potential future bailouts of struggling financial institutions
Still in that delusional world I see? There is the framework of a plan that will require the Politicians to work at a compromise on specifics of that plan. When and if, they ever get out of the politics mode, they will do that. But, that is not going to happen anytime soon.
Speaking of delusional-
Do you actually believe that the nation can go on spending at the current rate and avoid insolvency? Do you think that hyperinflation and currency devaluation are good things?
If we do not act, we will face the same fate suffered by Argentina, Chile, Zimbawe, and the Weimar Republic. By 2025 (that is not that far away), the majority of federal revenues will be devoted to servicing the debt. At that time, there will be NOTHING TO CUT and we will be faced with one of three alternatives-
To continue with the plan of the former democratic congress and Obama (spend into infinity) insures insolvency. If the US goes belly up on its debt, there will be a world wide depression.
You will have to give up your socialist entitlements at some time (we cannot afford them). It is best to do so now.
Here we go.. Liberals now supporting the cutting of federal spending.
We can now completely abolish the Office of Management and Budget.. I wonder how much MORE this will save..
My my my, we all have short memories..
The House budget largely tracks Obama's initial proposed spending plan, with the exception of a decision to drop his $250 billion request for potential future bailouts of struggling financial institutions
Congress very often does pass the presidents budget for the most part..
The OMB should be abolished. It was created in 1970 by a Democrat controlled Congress. The OMB began under the Department of the Treasury in 1921 as the Bureau of the Budget under the Budget and Accounting Act. FDR moved it to the Executive Office of the President in 1939.
I have looked at it, but I don't see any major cuts
in military spending. Did I miss it, or is it not in there?
Not in there.
They'd rather do this:
"The Republicans prefer to cut small, but important social programs that make a real difference in the lives of many poor people, women, children or the elderly, instead of cutting anything from Defense Contractors.
...
While media attention focuses on the cuts to government spending demanded by House Republicans and broadly accepted by Democrats, the Pentagon is poised to reap billions more in federal funds, according to sources close to the discussions."
The OMB should be abolished. It was created in 1970 by a Democrat controlled Congress. The OMB began under the Department of the Treasury in 1921 as the Bureau of the Budget under the Budget and Accounting Act. FDR moved it to the Executive Office of the President in 1939.
I'm not sure I agree that it should be abolished. One might be able to argue that having the President write a proposal that gets modified is better than having 2 different OMB offices, 1 for the House, 1 for the Senate..
Do you actually believe that the nation can go on spending at the current rate and avoid insolvency? Do you think that hyperinflation and currency devaluation are good things?
If we do not act, we will face the same fate suffered by Argentina, Chile, Zimbawe, and the Weimar Republic. By 2025 (that is not that far away), the majority of federal revenues will be devoted to servicing the debt. At that time, there will be NOTHING TO CUT and we will be faced with one of three alternatives-
To continue with the plan of the former democratic congress and Obama (spend into infinity) insures insolvency. If the US goes belly up on its debt, there will be a world wide depression.
You will have to give up your socialist entitlements at some time (we cannot afford them). It is best to do so now.
You will have to learn to read. The Deficit Commission plan calls for spending cuts in all areas. I have always agreed that has to happen.
And yet you defend Obama for not making any such cuts in the budget?
Obama hasn't been in Congress for 2 yrs.
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