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Old 04-21-2011, 05:33 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Dearborn— A seven-person jury on Friday will weigh whether a Quran-burning pastor can legally carry out plans that day to protest at the Islamic Center of America mosque.

From The Detroit News: Jury to decide if pastor can protest at Dearborn mosque | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://detnews.com/article/20110421/METRO/104210459/Jury-to-decide-if-pastor-can-protest-at-Dearborn-mosque#ixzz1KCfc7vhH - broken link)

This man and organization have a better understanding of freedom of speech than the judge.

Arab Community Center for Economic & Social Services Director Hassan Jaber issued a statement backing Jones' right to protest — and residents' right to criticize him.



"At ACCESS, we work to empower people to become fully engaged members of their community," Jaber said.



"We cannot teach the U.S. Constitution in our citizenship classes while opposing First Amendment rights. So we support Mr. Jones' right to speak, but we do so with our own postscript: That his message of bigotry and hate does not resonate here."
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Sharia on the march.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:34 PM
 
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Would one expect something different in Dearborn, Michigan? Sharia law is on the march. I think this pastor is an oxygen thief who willfully placed lives in danger in the middle east but this wouldn't happen in any other US city.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:37 PM
 
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Sharia on the march.
Indeed it is! Dearbornistan is only the first stop.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:49 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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But yet people can protest at funerals..... We make less and less sense as the days go by.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:59 PM
 
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Detroit Trying To Muzzle Koran-Burning Pastor
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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But yet people can protest at funerals..... We make less and less sense as the days go by.



Since when is free speech pre-approved by government for public divulgence?
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:03 AM
 
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Sorry, if protesting at someone's funeral is protected speech, so is protesting at a mosque. Dearborn, you aren't special.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The question to be decided by the jury isn't whether or not he can mount his protest, but whether or not he'll have to post a bond to cover the cost of police protection in case violence breaks out.

Bonds are not at all uncommon for protest marches, but Jones refused to pay it and opted for a jury trial instead.

In other words, it's an issue of his own making.
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Old 04-22-2011, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The question to be decided by the jury isn't whether or not he can mount his protest, but whether or not he'll have to post a bond to cover the cost of police protection in case violence breaks out.

Bonds are not at all uncommon for protest marches, but Jones refused to pay it and opted for a jury trial instead.

In other words, it's an issue of his own making.
The question is, it Jones doing anything violent? If he is making physical attacks, burning Mosques, etc, he should be shut down.

The supposition here is will his peaceful speach so incite members of the religion of peace that they will go on a violent rampage, correct? If that is the fear, those suspected of doing the violence should be the ones to have to pay a "peace bond". If Islamic Mosques are in some way inciting violence in their members, charge them for the police protection this incurs, and for any damage they cause.

Let me ask this. Should a black civil rights group planning a peaceful protest over KKK actions have to pay a "peace bond"? If not, why should Jones? The guy might be an azzhat, but that doesn't mean he should be silenced.

Sounds like the religion of peace is continuing on its path. Use, or threaten violence, and you will get your way and silence opposition.
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