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Old 05-09-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Just like it says. Read a great deal regarding Welfare and Public Assistance abuse. Same with Social Security disability. Unemployment extensions are unlikely to occur with the Republican Congress. What shall we see if strict budgeting comes out of D.C. in the next few months to restrict the above programs. This is a case of actions having consequences which are not expected.

Shall we see:

1. Dispossesion of families?
2. Increased crime rate
3. Reverse immigration of illegals?
4. Increased work ethic among those refusing low paying work due to the net gain from public assistance compared to working low wage employment?
5. Starvation in the streets?
6. Other.

If it's handled properly, it would be a big boost to this country. You have to phase these programs out over time. You have to train our children in school that they are responsible for their decisions, not the nanny state.

Most Americans have grown up in an environment where they assume the government (other people's money) will take care of them. So they see no reason to save for retirement, no reason to save a rainy day fund, or save for eduction. It's a complete environment of irresponsibility. So why not spend all my money today, get into debt, then let the government worry about bailing out my ass if anything bad happens.

Removing nanny state programs will eventually cause more people to take care of themselves, be productive and save for their own needs. Since people would have much more of their OWN money to save or spend, the economy would boom.

Churches and Charities would continue to provide help for disadvantaged people. Charity should be handled by private organizations, not the government.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:39 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Originally Posted by Felix C View Post
Just like it says. Read a great deal regarding Welfare and Public Assistance abuse. Same with Social Security disability. Unemployment extensions are unlikely to occur with the Republican Congress. What shall we see if strict budgeting comes out of D.C. in the next few months to restrict the above programs. This is a case of actions having consequences which are not expected.

Shall we see:

1. Dispossesion of families?
2. Increased crime rate
3. Reverse immigration of illegals?
4. Increased work ethic among those refusing low paying work due to the net gain from public assistance compared to working low wage employment?
5. Starvation in the streets?
6. Other.
All of the jerk offs will have to find a job.

All of the welfare queens will stop having baby after baby they can't afford.

The illegals will not be able to support their anchor babies and return to where they came from.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:43 PM
 
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There is no need to call anything. I simply questioned "common sense". As for student leaving colleges in debt, and people not having enough to retire, such issues weren't much of an issue until last three decades or so. We're becoming more reliant on corporations, and consequently, they are governing us, and mostly through the government they pay for. Why wouldn't people be getting poorer, with rising debt?
But we're not becoming more reliant on the government? Might want to cut back on the koolaide.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Jobs that "Americans won't do" will be done by Americans.

Correct. But only if you get the government out of the way. The market will elevate wages for those jobs until the supply meets the demand.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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There could be the potential for social strife. It would become very easy for people to think that "the government cares about corporations and is willing to screw the lower class" if we got rid of all social welfare programs a few years after all those bailouts.

Another reason to end all bail outs and subsidies.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Yes, social strife, people living in cardboard boxes, dumpster diving for food would be just great! Bring it on! (Sarcasm)
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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There are alot of jobs available, just not suitable applicants. A friend of mine who owns a small manufacturing facility has two job openings, but says that most of the applicants have either failed drug testing or are not able to perform simple math skills to be able to perform the job. My brother in law, who is a machinist, says the same thing.
Another reason to end all drug testing. If they can do the work properly, why do you care if they enjoy drugs? And if they can't do the work properly, does it matter if they are enjoying drugs?
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Another reason to end all drug testing. If they can do the work properly, why do you care if they enjoy drugs? And if they can't do the work properly, does it matter if they are enjoying drugs?
Yep the drug testing really works It takes 30 days for weed to work it's way out of a pesrons sytem but crack/coke it takes 3 days. So what the employer is getting is someone who does not use drugs or a crack head. Plus with some cash you can buy products that cleans your system and beat the test.
My brother who was a alcoholic, use to have his own urine business He would fill a container for a 12 pack. And it works if you warm it up to body temp before they strip test it. Unfortunately for him they went to hair follicle and swabbing saliva.
I am with Paul I support liberty and lets face it the war on drugs is a failure and always will be.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: California
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All of the jerk offs will have to find a job.

All of the welfare queens will stop having baby after baby they can't afford.

The illegals will not be able to support their anchor babies and return to where they came from.
Sounds good to me
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Originally Posted by Neuling View Post
Probably a little bit of everything, depending on the character of the individuals affected
...or the state or region. In my estimation it's the national aggregate result that is totally unpredictable. Always has been.
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