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Old 05-26-2011, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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But how can the president and the US DoJ promote their agenda by choosing to ignore laws it doesn't like?
That's part of the balance of power established by the Constitution. The executive branch enforces laws written by congress. If congress writes unjust laws, the president doesn't have to enforce them.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:02 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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A more interesting question might be: Why does the executive branch of the federal government fail to enforce the laws passed by Congress? Isn't that their job?

You mean "his" job. As in the chosen one. King Obama.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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As if these people ever bother to read the actual opinion, let alone understand it. It's enough for them to be told what it means by some right-wing "pundit."

BTW, I agree with the decision and the policy. I've felt all along that the best way to address illegal immigration is to crack down on employers. Hard.
I don't disagree, but when it comes to immigration, the federal government has proven itself to be inept at enforcing the laws and managing the programs, slow to approve worker visas, and the laws are outdated, cumbersome, and actually encourage noncompliance.

The immigration laws and procedures need to be rewritten to improve service, meet modern immigration trends, address terrorism, and when it comes to migrant workers, it needs to encourage employer participation.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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That's part of the balance of power established by the Constitution. The executive branch enforces laws written by congress. If congress writes unjust laws, the president doesn't have to enforce them.
Nooooo, the president can't ignore laws of the land if he doesn't "like" them. That would make him a dictator. We have 3 branches of govt for a reason.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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Precedence has been set in stone
Sux on that rock
I'm not sure what you are talking about. More troubling, I'm not sure you know what you are talking about. First, this lawsuit was brought to court by the US Chambers of Commerce. The US Chambers of Commerce is politically conservative and has been opposed to President Obama's administration. The US Chambers of Commerce lost in this lawsuit. That is not something that conservatives should be cheering about.

Secondly, the Supreme Court ruled today that specific state legislation in Arizona could be enforced, that it did not contradict or interfere with federal legislation. They did not say that the states can enforce federal law, per your claim. The state imposes penalties on businesses that employ illegal immigrants which are in line with the federal legislation. The state further imposes that business are required to participate in E-verify, while the federal legislation made that voluntary participation. The US Chambers of Commerce argued that such penalties placed an undue burden on businesses. The Supreme Court disagreed.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That's part of the balance of power established by the Constitution. The executive branch enforces laws written by congress. If congress writes unjust laws, the president doesn't have to enforce them.

Where the hell did you come up with this?

Not even our own President is above the law.

In the USA the same laws that apply to us, ARE SUPPOSE to apply to our elite, power hungry, stuck up, politicians, too. Suppose to.

Unless your the King.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:05 AM
 
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As if these people ever bother to read the actual opinion, let alone understand it. It's enough for them to be told what it means by some right-wing "pundit."

BTW, I agree with the decision and the policy. I've felt all along that the best way to address illegal immigration is to crack down on employers. Hard.
You think like a bureaucrat.
Many illegals have falsified documentation. How far is an employer expected to go to prove legality?
Employers should not have to act as government agents nor should they be penalized for federal ineptness.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:07 AM
 
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I'm not sure what you are talking about.
What do you expect when the thread's author has no clue of the facts before the Court nor has read the Court's decision, which by the way, I posted a link to the decision above.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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You think like a bureaucrat.
Many illegals have falsified documentation. How far is an employer expected to go to prove legality?
Employers should not have to act as government agents nor should they be penalized for federal ineptness.
That was the perspective of the US Chambers of Commerce.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'm not sure what you are talking about. More troubling, I'm not sure you know what you are talking about. First, this lawsuit was brought to court by the US Chambers of Commerce. The US Chambers of Commerce is politically conservative and has been opposed to President Obama's administration. The US Chambers of Commerce lost in this lawsuit. That is not something that conservatives should be cheering about.

Secondly, the Supreme Court ruled today that specific state legislation in Arizona could be enforced, that it did not contradict or interfere with federal legislation. They did not say that the states can enforce federal law, per your claim. The state imposes penalties on businesses that employ illegal immigrants which are in line with the federal legislation. The state further imposes that business are required to participate in E-verify, while the federal legislation made that voluntary participation. The US Chambers of Commerce argued that such penalties placed an undue burden on businesses. The Supreme Court disagreed.

Is there a mental block somewhere?

It sets precedence! States can in fact enforce the federal immigration laws. that have been on the books for 25 years. The very laws our DOJ and our King and savior, say are exclusive to them to enforce.
Employing illegal parasites, has been illegal for as long as our nation has controlled our immigration.
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