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Old 06-05-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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For over a decade the Right uses the term "elitist snobs" to disguise their dislike for intellectuals or anything intellectual.
Why?

Because under instense intellectual scrutiny the entire premse that Right Wing America operates under completely falls apart unless you are an avid Christian Conservative, or a believer in a social and economic system that doesn't offer opportunities to disadvantaged people or a believer in the expansion of corporate power.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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Why don't you read the OP, then maybe you will realize that you are wrong with your assertion.

See what I mean about the pretentious snobbery of the Left? This assumes I did not read the OP and no, I am not wrong about my assertion that the Left relies on snobbery and a phony intellectualism to denigrate conservatives. Charles Krauthammer is of the most intelligent and well educated intellectuals in the country and he is decidedly conservative. So, no, the Left does not "own" either intelligence or intellectualism.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:41 AM
 
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The same can be said about the darlings on the left and we need look no further than the OP.
And here I am slandered as a liberal just as predicted in the OP. There can be no dissent whatsoever in their either or world. Careful, I'm pro gun, pro police, pro tough on crime, and pro military (in fact, I'm an Army veteran).

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We have the same questions about the darlings of moonbattery who believe:
  • If someone is wealthy and successful they're evil and it's unfair
  • All criminals are victims of society
  • Everything should be free as long as someone other than themselves has to pay for it
  • It's perfectly reasonable to pay someone a six figure salary to make change in a toll booth as long as they belong to a union because without unions everyone in America would be working for 5.00 per hour.
The above diatribe, as predictable and trite as it is, doesn't describe me in the least, nor do I personally know of anyone who believes such nonsense. Part of the reason that I describe myself as a moderate is due to the fact that my atheism makes me immune to the irrational religious impulses that drive so many right wing attitudes and behaviors such as the intolerance of and open hostility towards homosexuals or advocates of any lifestyle or creed that doesn't conform to strict Puritanical ideals. The "freedom to do exactly as we do" that so many right wingers unconsciously espouse is not freedom at all. They don't have the right, Constitutional or otherwise, to force the belief system of their imaginary deity on the rest of us, nor will we tolerate it. Get used to it.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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And this is just another troll thread. No serious discussion is possible in these kinds of threads.
As you prove with each and every post.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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See what I mean about the pretentious snobbery of the Left? This assumes I did not read the OP and no, I am not wrong about my assertion that the Left relies on snobbery and a phony intellectualism to denigrate conservatives. Charles Krauthammer is of the most intelligent and well educated intellectuals in the country and he is decidedly conservative. So, no, the Left does not "own" either intelligence or intellectualism.
You assume that the OP is part of "The Left" when in fact he/she calls himself a "political moderate". So no, you clearly did not read the OP otherwise you would have not made such a statement about the OP.
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Old 06-05-2011, 12:09 PM
 
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You assume that the OP is part of "The Left" when in fact he/she calls himself a "political moderate". So no, you clearly did not read the OP otherwise you would have not made such a statement about the OP.
Hah! In the OP I even made the observation that any criticism of the right at all will always get you labeled as a lefty (especially amongst the reactionary blowhards here on CD) whether or not you actually are. I knew that little pearl of wisdom would sail right over a lot of heads. There is simply no middle ground in the minds of these people. You can only be one or the other. They can't conceive of any other way. As an example to clarify my politics/beliefs: I don't have any socialistic leanings as most liberals do, nor am I the least bit religiously dogmatic as most conservatives are. These are both extremist positions in my view. Hence the need for moderation (or why I call myself a moderate).

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Old 06-05-2011, 12:21 PM
 
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See what I mean about the pretentious snobbery of the Left? This assumes I did not read the OP and no, I am not wrong about my assertion that the Left relies on snobbery and a phony intellectualism to denigrate conservatives. Charles Krauthammer is of the most intelligent and well educated intellectuals in the country and he is decidedly conservative. So, no, the Left does not "own" either intelligence or intellectualism.
He is one person in the Right. It's rather unfortunate that more people on the Right don't display his intellectual insights.

And if was really such a smart guy he would have figured out that Donald Trump wasn't REALLY running for President.

It the Right Wing leaders didn't do such a good job of playing on peoples ignorance to get political support and votes the accusation would have never been made.
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Old 06-05-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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You assume that the OP is part of "The Left" when in fact he/she calls himself a "political moderate". So no, you clearly did not read the OP otherwise you would have not made such a statement about the OP.
For the second time. A false assumption.

Anyone can call themselves whatever they want. It's what they say afterward that gives them away.
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Old 06-05-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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As a lifelong atheist and political moderate I've often been perplexed by the darlings of the right. From the famously incurious Dubya, to the populist paranoia of Beck, to the dimwit demagoguery of Palin, they all seem to suffer from a genuine Foxworthian glorious absence of sophistication. Stranger still is the fact that this is actually considered a virtue in the schizophrenic milieu of right wing politics.

They don't seem to require much of their heroes except that they think, act, and worship exactly as they do. No evidence of intellect, ability, or competence is needed. And should you ever voice concern at their lack of depth or doubt the efficacy of their facile solutions you will most certainly be called a liberal whether or not you actually are one and in spite of the fact that most right wingers have such a superficial, bigoted, and stereotype ridden view of liberalism that it's actually more of a caricature than a description of any veracity. Sigh... what's a thinking man to do but laugh?
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Old 06-05-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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I'm laughing because I knoOw it took the OP all night to compose his post.
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