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Old 06-29-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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They have to take that payment first by law.
And guess what? They can send it back, too, to the Treasury.

Freakin' hypocrites, every one of them.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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And guess what? They can send it back, too, to the Treasury.

Freakin' hypocrites, every one of them.
I simply do not understand this thinking. At the risk of being redundant, applying this logic you would call the parent of a public school student who wants school choice a hypocrite.

It is also hypocritical of the left to castrate the right for criticizing Michelle Obama, while savaging Bachmann's husband.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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I simply do not understand this thinking. At the risk of being redundant, applying this logic you would call the parent of a public school student who wants school choice a hypocrite.

It is also hypocritical of the left to castrate the right for criticizing Michelle Obama, while savaging Bachmann's husband.
Not at all. Because a parent who wants school choice doesn't want to abolish public schools.

The Tea Party clan on the other hand thinks any amount of govt is the devil's work, all the while they're happy to suck dollars out of its teat when it serves them, as this Bachmann thing illustrates.

I don't understand your second point. Are you saying the guy's innocent of his hypocritical behavior just because he's not running for president? Is Michelle Obama doing something so patently hypocritical?
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:35 PM
 
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It ain't hypocracy baby. It is working within the system. the loony left now contends you can't criticize the only game in town while accepting the benefits of the only game in town.

Parents of public school children be on notice. You are forbidden from critcizing public education while you are using it!

Please, please, please stay with this argument, You got a winner here!
Oh so by your standard you are pefectly O.K. with people SAYING they are against big government and excessive spending, but it's perfectly O.K. to gain finanically by using the same system they are speaking out against to their advantage?

Gotcha!

Thanks for defining the ethical standards of the Conservative Movement.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Not at all. Because a parent who wants school choice doesn't want to abolish public schools.

The Tea Party clan on the other hand thinks any amount of govt is the devil's work, all the while they're happy to suck dollars out of its teat when it serves them, as this Bachmann thing illustrates.

I don't understand your second point. Are you saying the guy's innocent of his hypocritical behavior just because he's not running for president?
First off, nobody wants to eliminate Medicare o Medicaid, just reform it. Second the teachers unions view school choice, the way you view Medicare and Medicaid reform, as an attempt to eliminate public schools.

How is Bachmann's husbands behavior hypocritical? I have no idea what his view of Medicaid is?
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:38 PM
 
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$137,000 over 6 years? Hardly a ton of dough. I suspect you practice bills multiples of this in a year to third parties..
If it's not that much money then why take it at all.

The Bachman's portray themselves as upstanding Christians.

If they don't believe in socialism and really wanted to serve the poor why take the money AT ALL?
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Oh so by your standard you are pefectly O.K. with people SAYING they are against big government and excessive spending, but it's perfectly O.K. to gain finanically by using the same system they are speaking out against to their advantage?

Gotcha!

Thanks for defining the ethical standards of the Conservative Movement.
Sure it is. It is ok to criticize a program while working inside it. I actually think this is far more principled than to benefit substantially from a government program and clamoring for more of it.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:41 PM
 
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And if he refused medicaid patients you'd be up in arms as well saying he hates the poor.

If he wanted GOOD money he wouldn't be running a clinic, would he ?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Their CHRISTIANS AREN'T THEY?

There is nothing stopping them from treating the poor without Medicaid.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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If it's not that much money then why take it at all.

The Bachman's portray themselves as upstanding Christians.

If they don't believe in socialism and really wanted to serve the poor why take the money AT ALL?
Nope, go back and read the post I was responding to. The poster said the Bachmann's could afford a Cadillac health plan with their Medicaid profits. I was not making the argument it was ok to accept it because it was a small amount. Read my post above for that reasoning.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:44 PM
 
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First off, nobody wants to eliminate Medicare o Medicaid, just reform it. Second the teachers unions view school choice, the way you view Medicare and Medicaid reform, as an attempt to eliminate public schools.

How is Bachmann's husbands behavior hypocritical? I have no idea what his view of Medicaid is?
Fair point. We don't know his view. But we can make a pretty educated guess, wouldn't you say?

And how can you criticize me for calling Bachmann's husband hypocritical when you turn around and do the same thing to me (ascribe me a point of view you don't know whether I have)? That seems the very essence of hypocrisy.

In any case, I don't see Medicare and Medicaid reform that way. They desperately need reform. That's not at issue. But no one's having that debate. (How do we provide decent health care to our elderly in a way we can afford). They're just cut cut cut, and give all that money to the rich. Who cares how we do it. Just do it.

Regarding your first point, I'd suggest you do your homework.
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