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Old 06-30-2011, 06:41 AM
 
Location: TX
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The husband's views are unknown; however, the politician's are public written statement; therefore, a basis exists to reasonably draw conclusive argument that many of their views are the same or very similar.
Are you married?

Based on my own marriage, and pretty much all married couples I know, I'd put the chances of this blind assumption being correct at about 50/50 for any specific issue - which may still qualify as 'many', but not amount to better than random odds. I mean, IMO, if your spouse was almost an exact copy of you, what would be the point of even getting married? Seriously, the folks that aspire to that goal are either still unmarried or already divorced.

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Old 06-30-2011, 06:47 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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"While Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News."

"The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request."

Bachmann's husband got $137,000 in Medicaid funds - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com

Are the Bachman's socialists or hypocrits?

So, He should provide his services for free?
Maybe he should not see Medicaid patients all together, then the story would be a different bash.

This a case of can't win for losing.
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Are you married?

Based on my own marriage, and pretty much all married couples I know, I'd put the chances of this blind assumption being correct at about 50/50 for any specific issue (vs 'many' which I take to mean >60%). I mean, IMO, if your spouse was almost an exact copy of you, what would be the point of even getting married?
Your question is irrelevant as is your analogy.

There is no blind assumption, the criteria has been clearly defined.

If two politicians release statements, issue comments and have stances along the same ideological lines regarding policy decisions and governing it is reasonable to infer that their views are similar.
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:53 AM
 
Location: TX
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Your question is irrelevant as is your analogy.

There is no blind assumption, the criteria has been clearly defined.

If two politicians release statements, issue comments and have stances along the same ideological lines regarding policy decisions and governing it is reasonable to infer that their views are similar.
So that would be a 'no'

I was not aware that her husband was a politician, nor have I seen his statements regarding his ideology. My apologies - could you please provide a link?
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The husband's views are unknown; however, the politician's are public written statement; therefore, a basis exists to reasonably draw conclusive argument that many of their views are the same or very similar.
Why would you draw that conclusion? Does Matlin and Carville ring a bell?

Look you guys are simply wrong on this, people who are not hyper partisan will see this for what is is.
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:54 AM
 
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"While Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News."

"The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request."

Bachmann's husband got $137,000 in Medicaid funds - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com

Are the Bachman's socialists or hypocrits?
And if he hadn't "taken" Medicaid payments, the left would be shrieking that he turned away poor people.

What was he supposed to do? Work for free? Make his patients pay cash? Turn them away? Close the clinic and put his employees out of work?
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:58 AM
 
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They are hypocrites, as are most people who claim to be Libertarians. They are quick to line their pockets with the money from government programs.
So now the left has decided that they claim to be Libertarians? I thought she was a conservative.
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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So that would be a 'no'

I was not aware that her husband was a politician, nor have I seen his statements regarding his ideology. My apologies - could you please provide a link?
Who cares about the husband, this was in response to shorebaby's Ron Paul assertion. Clearly you're not paying attention.
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Why would you draw that conclusion? Does Matlin and Carville ring a bell?

Look you guys are simply wrong on this, people who are not hyper partisan will see this for what is is.
Not by the criteria stated, no.

Why are you stuck on the husband and wife scenario? You appear to be incapable of reading and comprehending what you read separate of bias.

Read the statement in it's entirety separate of your biased thought, then respond. You're not paying attention.
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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"While Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News."

"The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request."

Bachmann's husband got $137,000 in Medicaid funds - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com

Are the Bachman's socialists or hypocrits?
This amount is actually rather small and why would you slam him for taking Medicade patients and can he turn them away. Why would you not take government funds to train people? Would you expect him to treat them and not be reimbursed? This is such a silly attack on her and her husband. Have you not noticed the media whipping up into a frenzy over this woman and without anything of substance? Are you so programed by these people you cant think for yourself?
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