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Old 06-30-2011, 04:48 PM
 
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No, the right wanted to continue the same policy
There were several free market proposals to reduce health care costs. But cost reduction wasn't part of Obama's objective.

 
Old 06-30-2011, 04:50 PM
 
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And let China pay for it, right?
Do you realize that cost would go DOWN under single payer? We already have the highest healthcare costs in the world.
 
Old 06-30-2011, 04:50 PM
 
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LOL,

it is very difficult to rememberer a good piece of Obama's legislation, everybody is satisfied and like him, from Saudi's Kings to North Korea's Idiots, but not the American People.
Obama has done NOTHING but campaign. The world is laughing at us and the foreign leaders consider Obama a joke. Instead of Health Care Reform he should have focused on Health Care Insurance Reform and Tort Reform.
 
Old 06-30-2011, 04:51 PM
 
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And let China pay for it, right?
Our taxes...do you even know how single payer works?
 
Old 06-30-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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Do you realize that cost would go DOWN under single payer? We already have the highest healthcare costs in the world.
In that case we'd sure get coverage but not so much care at least not nearly as much as we have now.
 
Old 06-30-2011, 04:54 PM
 
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There were several free market proposals to reduce health care costs. But cost reduction wasn't part of Obama's objective.
The free market is incapable of containing health care costs. Plus, "free market solutions" are a moot point in health insurance....the free market doesn't exist in health insurance.
 
Old 06-30-2011, 04:54 PM
 
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What happens to the people who can afford health care now but don't want it? They would probably rather pay the penalty than buy the insurance.

More and more employers are going to stop offering health benefits and people will be forced to get it elsewhere. Why should employers continuing paying a chunk of $$ for their employees?

Obamacare is going to cost a lot of $$.
 
Old 06-30-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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In that case we'd sure get coverage but not so much care at least not nearly as much as we have now.
What do you base this on?
 
Old 06-30-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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What happens to the people who can afford health care now but don't want it? They would probably rather pay the penalty than buy the insurance.

More and more employers are going to stop offering health benefits and people will be forced to get it elsewhere. Why should employers continuing paying a chunk of $$ for their employees?

Obamacare is going to cost a lot of $$.
There shouldn't be a choice to have health insurance or not. There should be a payroll tax for it and everybody gets covered. End of story. Getting sick and getting old isn't an option. It's a fact of life. Everybody needs healthcare whether they like it or not.
 
Old 06-30-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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Our taxes...do you even know how single payer works?
Sure do. Do you know how much it costs?
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