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Old 07-14-2011, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I agree. Americans have been taught the most evil philosophy in the world is communism. Silly. The Book of Acts and all societies are full of communal caring. .
I don't know anybody who does not agree with communal sharing. You confuse government wealth redistribution with sharing. The two are not related.

Communism is government wealth control and redistribution. Christianity is voluntary sharing. Totally different concepts.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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You mean like the Walton children who are 4 of the top 10 wealthiest persons in the U.S. They got it the old fashioned way. They inherited it.

So what? What's the problem? Jealous?
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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...Why I can remember when Dad's salary could support a family, now Mom and Dad have to work to afford chinese Crap from Slave Mart

And I can remember when Mom and Dad CHOSE to live within their means. I can remember when they ate out once per month, and didn't spend hundreds on i-phones and cable TV, and paid cash for their purchases.

Today, people CHOOSE to live on two incomes and live beyond their means while accumulating loads of debt.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:32 PM
 
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So what? What's the problem? Jealous?
Exposing the myth that all extremely wealthy people got there because of ability and determination. The fact is that many got there because they inherited. I am no more Jealous of a billionaire than you are of a person collecting food stamps.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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According to David Stockman, former budget director for Ronald Reagan:

"In 1985, the top 5% of the households, the wealthiest 5%, had net worth of $8 Trillion, which is a lot. Today after serial bubble after serial bubble, the top 5% have net worth of $40 Trillion. The top 5% have gained more wealth than the whole human race had created prior to 1980."

8 trillions in 1985 probably buy a lot more than 40 trillions in 2011.

The only winner her is US government and federal reserves. They have grow so much in the last 30 years.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:45 PM
 
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And when they force wages down far enough they will """Give""" to the former middle class in America. Why I can remember when Dad's salary could support a family, now Mom and Dad have to work to afford chinese Crap from Slave Mart


FOXSPEAK Union=Socialism
Slave Wages= Freedom

your chocolate ration has been increased from 22 grams to 20 grams
I could give two craps about your politics and that is the basis of your position.

Price increases are not attributed to any one specific thing. There are multiple factors and multiple arguments that can be made to which factors are the most significant.

Your anecdotal reasoning is worth about as much as a used up condiment packet. So excuse some of us who aren't willing to throw away all of our freedoms on the rationalizations of those who would lynch and follow the first accusation cry.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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And when they force wages down far enough they will """Give""" to the former middle class in America. Why I can remember when Dad's salary could support a family, now Mom and Dad have to work to afford chinese Crap from Slave Mart


FOXSPEAK Union=Socialism
Slave Wages= Freedom

your chocolate ration has been increased from 22 grams to 20 grams


You have have not followed proper MinRec procedure, the chocolate ration was increased from !8 grams to 20 grams. Put any old documents in the memory hole as per MinRec procedures. If you persist in these tendencies towards ownlife and persist in being a Thought Criminal You will be turned in to the Ministry of Love (MiniLuv) to become healthy again.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:49 PM
 
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And I can remember when Mom and Dad CHOSE to live within their means. I can remember when they ate out once per month, and didn't spend hundreds on i-phones and cable TV, and paid cash for their purchases.

Today, people CHOOSE to live on two incomes and live beyond their means while accumulating loads of debt.
Not to mention, consider other contributions to price.

For instance, my grandfather in the mid 70's built a 900 sqft house on 1/2 an acre of land for the total cost of 13k. That was though before the local, state, and federal regulations started to encroach on the industry. They could build a home quickly and efficiently while today, that same home is driven up greatly in price and a large contributor to such is the insane bureaucratic process of the regulations.

People need to think about all of the factors out there before they start blaming any specific thing. There are many factors that contribute to the state of our society and many of those would likely be contributions that those seeking political sway are unwilling to accept or even consider.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Exposing the myth that all extremely wealthy people got there because of ability and determination. The fact is that many got there because they inherited. I am no more Jealous of a billionaire than you are of a person collecting food stamps.
20%.

But let's just punish 100% to make sure we get those evil inheritors who, in your petty, jealous opinion, don't deserve the money their ancestors busted their butts to get.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:53 PM
 
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And when they force wages down far enough they will """Give""" to the former middle class in America. Why I can remember when Dad's salary could support a family, now Mom and Dad have to work to afford chinese Crap from Slave Mart


FOXSPEAK Union=Socialism
Slave Wages= Freedom

your chocolate ration has been increased from 22 grams to 20 grams
Well, $5/hr is better than $0/hr. If you are a person looking for work and a employer can only afford $5/hr to hire 1 person because that extra person can bring in $7 profit, which will net the employer $2 after paying you.

If the minimum wage is $7, then the employer has no incentive to hire. If it's $7.01, he is taking a lost to hire you.

If you think $5 is too low, you don't have to work. There are other people think $5 is fair and will take the job. Now because of minimum wage, there are less jobs because employer cannot affect to hire.

So can you provide me an argument why minimum wage is good for the economy?
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