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Old 12-29-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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Agreed. It will be very difficult to determine that a particular company is using current employment as a criteria for advancing in the hiring process. However, I have seen application websites that kick you out immediately if you click "Unemployed" as your current situation. That, of course, would stop. They'd just kick your app out a little later.

Still, I find it interesting that companies would not want to hire someone who is not currently already employed. Seems rather counterintuitive to me: an unemployed person is more eager for work, would likely be easier to negotiate with on wages, would likely have a longer "honeymoon" period before they got cranky, etc. And with such a large number of people who are out of work, companies with this policy are unnecessarily limiting their pool of applicants.
The problem has to do with current job skills and attitude toward work and habits.

An employed person is more likely to be used to getting out of bed every day and sees work as a source of a pay check, an unemployed person has become accustomed to watching television, doing nothing much, and expects to be paid for not working.

Of course there are some unemployed who very much want to work and there are some lazy employed people. But getting 2 or more years of free money to not work isn't helping prepare people to be productive citizens.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Yet Another Kum-By-Ya attempt to push us over to Socialism. While there at it, lets give the unemployed another 99 weeks.

The unemployed would not be so if they had any common sense to realize their lives were over when their bloated overpaid salaries were lost. It was time to reset the life clock and start over when they lost their job 2 years or 3 years ago.

In the hey day when everyone was working, employers found themselves in positions were they had to raise salaries to keep the steady eddy's in the office. When things crashed steady eddy did not want to sacrifice and give back any money, as an employer we had no choice but to send eddy packing.

Now employers have choice and they are choosing younger and cheaper employees vs. steady eddy who still thinks he deserves 75, 80k or more.

If I can hire at 35k and train up, that's what I am doing.

The unemployed will remain so until such time they realize that the good ole days are gone.

Sorry, that is the way it is and the way it has always been.

You can't make me hire someone I don't want to hire. Their interpretation of discrimination is wrong. We hire for the good of the company, not based on status, creed, color, sex or sexual orientation.

All Unemployed (Downsizers) Ask yourself this, "Would you like frys with that burger?"

This is where you need to start climbing that ladder again. Get moving, your not getting any younger.
If ever there were an argument for unions, you sure just made a strong case.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:10 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Like others have pointed out, bills like this are largely unenforceable. It's not as ridiculous as it sounds though. People who have jobs can find a new job easier than the unemployed. Employers tend to think less of people who are unemployed, especially if they have been unemployed for an extended period.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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If ever there were an argument for unions, you sure just made a strong case.
Yet you're one of the open borders unlimited illegal immigration types who wants all that dirt cheap labor coming here to bring down wages and displace Americans in the workplaces. Weird. You really shouldn't try to play both sides, claiming that Americans are too lazy to work so we need to bring in cheap foreign workers and then pretend you care about the unemployed.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:40 PM
 
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I think it's aimed at people who are searching for work. No company should have to hire someone who doesn't want to work.

I don't know what to think about it myself. I sympathise with the idea behind it, but I don't know how such a law can be enforced.
Why would anyone be applying for a job if they didn't want to work?
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the last and final frontier for EEOC, the unemployed and the unemployable.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:45 PM
 
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Why would anyone be applying for a job if they didn't want to work?
similarly, if a company has a position to fill why would they need a law dictating to them how to fill it?
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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Why would anyone be applying for a job if they didn't want to work?
If you are employed you could be fishing for opportunities. Perhaps trying to get leverage for a raise in your present job.
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:20 PM
 
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Why would anyone be applying for a job if they didn't want to work?
The government requires that they at least send in one job application a week if they wish to continue receiving all the free money. Applying for the minimum number of jobs required is all they have to do to get their nice fat unemployment checks. That certainly doesn't mean they would actually want to have to do any work for that money.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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ASSuming an unemployed person doesn't want to work is sensible in what way?
How long has one been unemployed. You can ASSume they are MilkMen based on the length of time unemployed.

A persons unwillingness to hit reset and start working for lower wages is a testimony to their entitlement mentality.

Being unemployed for over a year is not acceptable. Employers take note of this and can easily write this person off.

"But, But, But I need to earn $30 an hour to make ends meet!"

If you were worth $30 an hour your A$$ would still be working!

Any legislation that purports to protect the individual from being discriminated against at the application level is interference and another loss of American Freedom.

Anyone who thinks the government will help you and votes or rallies for this, is really asking for a barcode on their forehead and a place to stand in line. Like the sheep you are.

Doers get it done, Complainers wait around for handouts. And yell the loudest about how unfair life is!

As far as I am concerned, 12M still out of work for any period of time over 4 months, need to be relocated to Europe.

No I am not a cold hearted bastard, if you are legitimately incapacitated or coming off a pregnancy. There are exceptions to be considered. That is not the norm now, we have people who have lost their benefits complaining about being discriminated against because they cannot go right back to work where they left off.

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