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Read my post. I said Vermont law may cover it, but that does not make it a "right." I've read quite a few posts on here implying that the inn owners were violating the couple's rights. They weren't.
I read your post. You said:
"You don't have the right to use someone else's private property. That is not a right. Maybe under Vermont law it's protected somehow but it is not a right."
I was simply rebutting that. All 50 states define businesses of "public accommodation" (what you call "someone else's private property") in their laws and then do not allow such businesses to deny service to any person because of that person's race, religion, sex, nationality, and in 21 states because of that person's sexual orientation.
This is a protection written into the civil laws of all 50 (or 21) states. What do we call protections, responsibilities, benefits, and privileges crafted by our civil law? - we call them civil, or legal, rights.
Everywhere in the United States, people have the RIGHT not to be denied service at a businesses of public accommodation because of their religion or race or sex. In 21 states, people have the RIGHT not to be denied service at a business of public accommodation because of their sexuality. Vermont is one such state, and denying these women the rental use of a banquet hall because of their sexuality violated that RIGHT.
Can't respect the religious beliefs of a business owner, they have to try to force people to accept them...disgusting.
I just dont understand all this havoc the gay community is stirring up. Why are they trying to strong arm their way into people lives. Why is marriage being devalued? Marriage already had a bad name now its slowly going in the gutter. People lining up to get married like its some sporting event or black friday. What is the point of that sort of thing?
I read the first comment to that article and the woman who wrote it said that this place had stopped holding that kind of meeting about 6 months ago and obviously this whole thing is an agenda driven thing from the ACLU and whoever else is trying to push these people.
Also the writer said that the owners have 8 children and it appears to me that they will have to get out of that business since the gay-ACLU people are after them. It seems that these people will be in all kinds of trouble and if they have to move on 8 little children will be in for some tough times. Ain't that something. These two women will never have any children but the gay movement can drive these people out of their method of making a living.
Wow...evil creates evil. Why do people think they are so important to the rest of us.
I just dont understand all this havoc the gay community is stirring up. Why are they trying to strong arm their way into people lives.
Strong arm? No, in the case with the Vermont bed and breakfast, they're just following the law. Perhaps you don't believe that people should follow the law.
It's not the same. Race is not comparable to who someone has sex with.
I doubt they'd hire a state democratic party official to represent them though.
Hate that arguement, who you choose to have sex with is nothing similar to any race. No one chooses their race. Parents do that. You choose to have sex with who you want, if people judge your for it...well....
Strong arm? No, in the case with the Vermont bed and breakfast, they're just following the law. Perhaps you don't believe that people should follow the law.
Yes be gay and be happy, stop trying to make people respect you and act like they understand the gay lifestyle when they do not. I just dont understand all this in your face fighting the homosexual community does to people who don't want to be around or affiliated with them. They want people to respect their choice, but they dont respect others choices. The INN owner said no, take your money and spend it with someone who says yes. Stop forcing people.
The Gay community seems to be becoming the "bad guys" They equate being gay with being Black, Latino or Asian. Where is the peace in all this?? Where is the love? Trying to force people to tolerate you because of your sexual choices is not fair to the people who dont tolerate. Its like this country needs another civil war again.
Strong arm? No, in the case with the Vermont bed and breakfast, they're just following the law. Perhaps you don't believe that people should follow the law.
Strong arm tactics most definitely or else why the lawsuit and resulting negative publicity instead of simply taking their business elsewhere? These women were clearly not welcome at this establishment and rather than forcing the Inn to accommodate homosexuals the Inn has discontinued hosting weddings and special events for everyone. Is this the goal the homosexuals hoped to achieve or did they really think and expect that they would receive service under less than ideal circumstances to their full and complete satisfaction at an establishment where they are clearly not wanted? One can only imagine how these wonderful individuals would react if God forbid a waiter or other service person looked at them in a manner they determined “funny” or if other guests at the Inn were visibly upset or revolted.
Strong arm tactics most definitely or else why the lawsuit and resulting negative publicity instead of simply taking their business elsewhere?
The law is the law. If your house was robbed, would you report it to the police, or would you just install a better alarm system? If a physician permanently injured you, would you sue or would you just take your business elsewhere?
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These women were clearly not welcome at this establishment and rather than forcing the Inn to accommodate homosexuals the Inn has discontinued hosting weddings and special events for everyone. Is this the goal the homosexuals hoped to achieve or did they really think and expect that they would receive service under less than ideal circumstances to their full and complete satisfaction at an establishment where they are clearly not wanted?
Again, the law is the law. I guess you don't understand how it works. And if the people of Vermont want to discriminate against people based on sexual orientation, they are welcome to change their law. I don't know of any movement to do that.
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They want people to respect their choice, but they dont respect others choices. The INN owner said no, take your money and spend it with someone who says yes. Stop forcing people.
The law is the law. If you don't like it, you're welcome to try to change it, but don't tell others that they shouldn't adhere to it simply because it makes you uncomfortable.
Hate that arguement, who you choose to have sex with is nothing similar to any race. No one chooses their race. Parents do that. You choose to have sex with who you want, if people judge your for it...well....
I know you hate that argument, even though it happens to be true.
I can choose to have sex with any woman in the world who's willing to have sex with me.
I cannot possibly choose to want to have sex with another man.
I suspect the same is true of you.
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