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Old 07-25-2011, 11:49 PM
 
Location: California
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I think you should provide us proof that these are not "top-led organizations" with a specific agenda. I find that very hard to believe. The very term "mother party" suggest that there is indeed an agenda and/or ideology that is followed.

I understand that your Scandinavian background has you coming to a natural defense, but lets be objective about it. Proof to support your statements would help your cause.
I don't know that you need "proof" of anything. It's not your country or your business and doesn't make any difference to this particular disaster.

Beck can say whatever he wants, I just don't know why anyone gives him audience.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:50 PM
 
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I'm sure Glenn Beck is just honestly disturbed that parents would be politicizing their children by sending tender young 16-22 years olds to a political camp. The horror!

Sorta like this one, maybe:
Tea party group offers summer camp - St. Petersburg Times

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Tuesday, June 14, 2011
TAMPA — Here's another option now that the kids are out of school: a weeklong seminar about our nation's founding principles, courtesy of the Tampa 912 Project.

The organization, which falls under the tea party umbrella, hopes to introduce kids ages 8 to 12 to principles that include "America is good," "I believe in God," and "I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable."
You may have heard of the 912 Project. It's a political organization founded by ...... [drum roll] ...... GLENN BECK!

9-12 Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So Glenn Beck doesn't mind young children going to a political camp, but he's appalled at young adults doing so?

Sheesh, any of you who actually think Beck believes this drivel he's shoveling are beyond hope. But give Beck his due, he knows all he has to do is whisper 'Hitler' and he'll have all of his acolytes running around saying "OMFG, a camp for indoctrinating kids just like the Nazis did, how horrible!". He plays you all like a cheap guitar...
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:50 PM
 
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I don't know that you need "proof" of anything. It's not your country or your business and doesn't make any difference to this particular disaster.

Beck can say whatever he wants, I just don't know why anyone gives him audience.
Yes, I do need proof. On a forum, if a person makes a claim, then they should be able to back it up. If this concept bothers you, then you should exit the forum.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:50 PM
 
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Who is defending Beck? All i've seen are those of us who find it a tad bit supicious that there's an active "youth wing" of a political party. How do youth get tangled up in a political ideology to the point that they end up en masse at a political summer camp? This is about American's viewing the Norwegian ideological system a bit odd more than it is about Glenn Beck.
So having a youth political camp disturbs you, but demonizing kids who were murdered does not?

Is it because the one who murdered them was a right winger?
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:53 PM
 
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I'm sure Glenn Beck is just honestly disturbed that parents would be politicizing their children by sending tender young 16-22 years olds to a political camp. The horror!

Sorta like this one, maybe:
Tea party group offers summer camp - St. Petersburg Times



You may have heard of the 912 Project. It's a political organization founded by ...... [drum roll] ...... GLENN BECK!

9-12 Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So Glenn Beck doesn't mind young children going to a political camp, but he's appalled at young adults doing so?

Sheesh, any of you who actually think Beck believes this drivel he's shoveling are beyond hope. But give Beck his due, he knows all he has to do is whisper 'Hitler' and he'll have all of his acolytes running around saying "OMFG, a camp for indoctrinating kids just like the Nazis did, how horrible!". He plays you all like a cheap guitar...
The 9-12 project deserves scrutiny too. But i've never been of the impression that the "Tea Party" is an established political party. Can you point out to me when the "Tea Party" made its way to the ballot? The "Tea Party" is more of a movement with its own ideology. I think you're really stretching here.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:54 PM
 
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Yes, I do need proof. On a forum, if a person makes a claim, then they should be able to back it up. If this concept bothers you, then you should exit the forum.
What kind of "proof" do you want to see? Specifically. And what proof would you have demanded pre-Beck's "Hitler Youth" comment?

BTW..is this different that teaching kids to be patriotic and proud of the USA?
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:55 PM
 
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The 9-12 project deserves scrutiny too. But i've never been of the impression that the "Tea Party" is an established political party. Can you point out to me when the "Tea Party" made its way to the ballot? The "Tea Party" is more of a movement with its own ideology. I think you're really stretching here.
Many Socialists groups have never made it to the ballot either. I suppose they are not a party either.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:57 PM
 
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So having a youth political camp disturbs you, but demonizing kids who were murdered does not?

Is it because the one who murdered them was a right winger?
Who has demonized the kids? I haven't seen one single post that points a finger directly at the kids. I think most people are sympathetic to the plight of these children. It's people like you who are attempting in vain to try to paint American conservatives as ideological co-conspirators. It's not working. And frankly I think its shameful that you'd stoop this low.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:59 PM
 
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So it's ok to demonize victims of terrorism because the terrorist is a right winger who identifies with the tea party?

Gotcha
It's also funny that the same people defending Beck's Hitler Youth comment probably didn't defend Ward Churchill's "little Eichmanns" comment although I might be wrong.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:00 AM
 
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What kind of "proof" do you want to see? Specifically. And what proof would you have demanded pre-Beck's "Hitler Youth" comment?

BTW..is this different that teaching kids to be patriotic and proud of the USA?
The kind of proof that I asked for in the post you responded to. Don't remember? Then go back and read.
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