Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: North America
5,960 posts, read 5,547,627 times
Reputation: 1951

Advertisements

America can live with this.

For liberals, the rich are getting shafted hard with the net worth tax.

For conservatives, the less productive spendthrifts are contributing through their unnecessary purchases.

And for good measure we are all still paying a modest income tax.

Couple this with a 1% across the board Federal spending cut each year for 15 years and the deficit and debt disappear before today's infants enter college.

Everyone contributes and everyone sacrifices.

Let's go!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:23 AM
 
22,768 posts, read 30,742,017 times
Reputation: 14745
i'm not sure if the numbers work out at those rates.... but i agree with the idea in concept.

it makes sense for us to draw from a diversity of federal revenue sources, instead of relying so heavily on taxing wages.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island
32,816 posts, read 19,492,759 times
Reputation: 9618
what do you mean by a 1% net worth tax???...how often???

an example a lower middleclass guy get a house valued at 100k for puts 20% down and gets the mortgage...10 years later (making extra payments) the house is paid off and now valued at 200k...his net "worth" is over 200k (just by the value of his home)....is he going to get SCREWED for an extra 2k every year...or just once (meanwhile he is paying 6k or more with property taxes)


so define "net worth"... and define how often this tax applies
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:26 AM
 
Location: North America
5,960 posts, read 5,547,627 times
Reputation: 1951
Quote:
Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
what do you mean by a 1% net worth tax???...how often???

an example a lower middleclass guy get a house valued at 100k for puts 20% down and gets the mortgae...10 years later (making extra payments) the house is paid off and now valued at 200k...his net "worth" is over 200k (just by the value of his home)....is he going to get SCREWED for an extra 2k every year...or just once (meanwhile he is paying 6k or more with property taxes)


so define new wiroth... and define how often this tax applies
The annual net worth tax is for "The Rich" only.

It is a concession to the progressives who whine about "The Rich" all the time (despite the whining they do have a good point).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
32,816 posts, read 19,492,759 times
Reputation: 9618
Quote:
Originally Posted by clb10 View Post
The net worth tax is for "The Rich" only.

It is a concession to the progressives who whine about "The Rich" all the time (despite the whining they do have a good point).
you now have me even more confused


what is rich???


I make 60k a year.....the guy down the block who works at a hardware store thinks I am rich

again at what levels do you apply this "net worth" tax..and HOW OFTEN
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:30 AM
 
22,768 posts, read 30,742,017 times
Reputation: 14745
Quote:
Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
what do you mean by a 1% net worth tax???...how often???

an example a lower middleclass guy get a house valued at 100k for puts 20% down and gets the mortgage...10 years later (making extra payments) the house is paid off and now valued at 200k...his net "worth" is over 200k (just by the value of his home)....is he going to get SCREWED for an extra 2k every year...or just once (meanwhile he is paying 6k or more with property taxes)


so define "net worth"... and define how often this tax applies
Well, he wouldn't have to pay 25, 35% of his wages during his working years, he would be paying 5%.

I'm not saying these numbers add up --- just, I don't understand why whenever a proposal is given like this, people focus only on the increased portion of the taxes, and not the decreased. It is like some kind of tax paranoia.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:36 AM
 
Location: North America
5,960 posts, read 5,547,627 times
Reputation: 1951
Quote:
Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
you now have me even more confused


what is rich???


I make 60k a year.....the guy down the block who works at a hardware store thinks I am rich

again at what levels do you apply this "net worth" tax..and HOW OFTEN
Again...ANNUAL.

Also, unless you live on an Inuit reservation in northern Alaska I'm pretty sure we can agree $60k ain't rich.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Long Island
32,816 posts, read 19,492,759 times
Reputation: 9618
Quote:
Originally Posted by le roi View Post
Well, he wouldn't have to pay 25, 35% of his wages during his working years, he would be paying 5%.

I'm not saying these numbers add up --- just, I don't understand why whenever a proposal is given like this, people focus only on the increased portion of the taxes, and not the decreased. It is like some kind of tax paranoia.
dont get me wrong...I think the idea has its merits..I only question the vagueness

I would be fine even with 10% across the board income tax and a 5% sales tax(which is double his idea)

but the 'net worth' tax needs to be DEFINED (clarrified)...what is 'net worth'...HOW OFTEN??? what LEVELS does to start or is it ALL levels??? does it include a 'housing' value or is the value of a primary domicile exempt from the worth??
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
32,816 posts, read 19,492,759 times
Reputation: 9618
Quote:
Originally Posted by clb10 View Post
Also, unless you live on an Inuit reservation in northern Alaska I'm pretty sure we can agree $60k ain't rich.
no 60k sure isnt rich...then again in the area where I live 300k is not rich either


so again...what is rich
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-01-2011, 08:38 AM
 
13,194 posts, read 28,306,718 times
Reputation: 13142
Hate the "net worth" tax- that wealth has already been taxed via income taxes, capital gains, etc, so in effect you're trying to tax them TWICE. Plus, when taxed 1% annually, it becomes taxing the SAME wealth a 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc time as the years go by. NO THANK YOU!!!

Also, a lot of net worth is "on paper" only- the market value of a home or stock that hasn't been sold. Many so-called "rich" people ($250k income & up) live in homes they've owned for decades. Maybe the market value (paper net wealth) has increased from $500,000 in 1995 to $800,000 today.....at the rate of an $8,000 net worth tax, in 30-40 years time the government will have taxed 100% of the home's increase in value, completely negating the American "mental value/investment" in real estate. Think that's a good idea? I THINK NOT.

"Net worth" taxes would cause a huge percentage of wealthy Americans to consider turning in their citizenship and leaving the country, probably for pro-wealth/ low tax areas like some of the Carribean islands.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:27 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top