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Old 08-11-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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Again?!?! Good Lord, with the recession on and food prices soaring, you'd think our government would have better things to do (and spend our tax money on!) than continually harassing these folks.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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Raw milk can contain listeria and/or e-coli. There is a reason milk is pasteurized. If people were to become ill form the consumption of these produsts there would have been an outcry of "where was the USDA".
Those two bacteria are on the endangered species list.

"Development of the oral microbial community involves competition as well as cooperation among the 500 species that compose this community."

Communication among Oral Bacteria
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Those two bacteria are on the endangered species list.

"Development of the oral microbial community involves competition as well as cooperation among the 500 species that compose this community."

Communication among Oral Bacteria
There are e-coli issues fairly commonly. Recently in ground turkey and fresh vegetables in Europe.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Raw milk can contain listeria and/or e-coli. There is a reason milk is pasteurized. If people were to become ill form the consumption of these produsts there would have been an outcry of "where was the USDA".
Can you post any links of listeria outbreaks due to raw milk ? Any within the last 5 years ?
Yes..that is "government speak" you post but are there any stats to back up the statement ?
We can find plenty of links from FDA/USDA inspected food though.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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There are e-coli issues fairly commonly. Recently in ground turkey and fresh vegetables in Europe.
The bacterial and viral community in your mouth is your first line of immunological defense against outsiders that haven't paid their dues.

Free enterprise works.

The government done been tweakin' e-coli, against all national and international laws prohibiting such tweaks.

"It appears that forensic evidence is emerging that indicates that the European e.coli superbug was bioengineered to produce human fatalities."

http://conservativecritic.wordpress....ring-run-amok/

"Because E. coli lives in the human intestine, this has raised fears that genetically-engineered versions might escape from the laboratory (or factory) and take up residence in humans, producing a product that might be harmful. For this reason, genetic engineering is done only on strains of E. coli that have been deliberately weakened so that they cannot survive for long in humans."

http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ult...Esch.coli.html

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Old 08-11-2011, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Maine
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If you want to consume raw milk that's your prerogative but, it is not supposed to be sold to the public.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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If you want to consume raw milk that's your prerogative but, it is not supposed to be sold to the public.
It's safer than the crap YOU eat.
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Old 08-11-2011, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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If you want to consume raw milk that's your prerogative but, it is not supposed to be sold to the public.
But, in the case of Rawesome, it isn't being sold to the public... its a private club providing a product at the specific request of fully informed members.
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Old 08-11-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Maine
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But, in the case of Rawesome, it isn't being sold to the public... its a private club providing a product at the specific request of fully informed members.
I'd "rep" ya but I'm all out for today. It's still a sale of a product that is illegal to sell though, I understand where you're coming from. I'd fully support exempting "private sales through private clubs" of organic/raw farm products.
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