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Yes, Economic Fullfillment is a Necessity of Rights 11 14.29%
No, Government Has no Rights to Protect Economic Interest of its People 66 85.71%
Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-20-2011, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Morgantown, WV
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Many would say that the right to be employed is socialist, but if you think about it, rights for everyone is socialist. Economic rights should be part of a country's constitution.

I applaud FDR for proposing this.


FDR's Economic Bill of Rights - YouTube
FDR was a racist, and a socialist, good choice of role models.
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Old 08-20-2011, 11:45 PM
 
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It's in the same section as the right to play golf at a Country Club. Keep looking, you may find it.

There are some who would claim to have found it within one of the penumbrae.
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Old 08-20-2011, 11:58 PM
 
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Virtually any moderately sized condo or townhouse.

You have a point there, but I wasn't even considering condos and townhouses because they are overpriced from Day One.

Real estate author Robert G. Allen has said that you can double or triple the value of apartments by buying the building and selling the units as condos.

Condos also are vulnerable to marketing, financing, insurance, and liquidity constraints because condo projects are the real estate analogue toi Untouchables if they don't have at least 50 percent owner-occupancy.
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:09 AM
 
Location: USA
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I think everyone should have the right to a job. Isn't it better to have everyone working instead of taxpayers paying for their welfare, food stamps, and unemployment bennies?
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:56 AM
 
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Man, what a slanted Poll this is.
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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You can claim this all that you want, and I'm sure some people might buy it, but the facts don't support the claim. As I said, the people of his time voted him into power once, and they re-elected him three additional times. By the time died, the United States was, with the great help of allies, heading toward decisive victories over the Axis powers, and the economy had pretty much recovered. It was already recovering on its own even before the war. The facts bear that out. The unemployment rate decreased every year on FDR's watch except for one year: 1938. The year after he agreed to cut deficits.

Obama's unemployment rate has been pretty impressive given the circumstances under which he entered. And like FDR, the situation has been gradually improving. Not nearly as fast as we need it to, but improved it has. Unfortunately, he's pretty much agreeing to go along with the conservatives and he's agreeing to make cuts to the budget, which is going to increase unemployment, and it's going to decrease consumer confidence and spending.

Your opinions of economics are not based on any knowledge of economics, obviously. They are based on preconceived notions, false analogies, and propaganda. Hit the books, my friend.
Your opinions of economics are not based on any knowledge of economics, obviously. They are based on preconceived notions, false analogies, and propaganda. Hit the books, my friend.
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Old 08-21-2011, 06:55 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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I think everyone should have the right to a job. Isn't it better to have everyone working instead of taxpayers paying for their welfare, food stamps, and unemployment bennies?
Well, you have a good point there.

But, the real reason the answer is no, is you can't employ someone who is a lousy worker. I have worked alongside of crappy employees. I got to do my work and theirs too.

You can't just pay people to sit around.
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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It's a shame he died before some of these proposals were put in place. FDR was truly one of the greatest and most gifted leaders we ever had.
I vehemently disagree. FDR was one of the worst Presidents we have ever had. He is the one who started us down the path of debt, nannny-state government, prolonged the Great Depression with his Socialistic policies and on and on and on! That's just for starters...
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:14 AM
 
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No.

How many people has the o.p. employed?

Great point. We know the answer- ZERO.
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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What happened to our right to property?
The only "right to property" I can find in the Federal Constitution is stated within Amendment 5, Section 1 which states "...nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation." This means personally-owed property, not that anyone is guaranteed a "right to property."

I must be missing something...can anyone point out where the right to own property is addressed within the United States Constitution?

I have long held the firm position that "property taxes" are unconstitutional in that in essence one may "hold title" to the property on which their home rests, but that can be taken away by government if property tax imposed is not paid. It is like one can only "rent" property to which they "hold title." We in California thank God that our Proposition 13 is the law of the State. Before this law was passed, government could and did raise property taxes whenever and however high they wished to suck money into government coffers. A tremendous percentage of retired people lost homes for which they worked and paid off mortgages so they could retire in comfort. Then their taxes on their homes were raised to the point they couldn't pay and they were dumped out in the street.

I would love it if somewhere in our US Constitution we could find protection for homes that were exempt from government taxes. I don't think it is there, but it should be.
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