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Old 08-26-2011, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Yeah, about that...

Numbers show fewer people on welfare (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/numbers-show-fewer-people-on-welfare-08252011 - broken link)

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Digging deeper into the numbers shows another trend: since the drug testing law passed, there's been a 15 percent drop in the number of people getting government assistance.


DCF says that is a significant drop, but they are not sure why. It could be due any number of factors, like people getting jobs, or capping out on benefits, or possibly the new drug policy.
Ya think?

(In before "faux news" BS. It's a local affiliate suckas!)
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Old 08-26-2011, 07:07 AM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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This is good news. Any way to get people off welfare works for me. It should be a stop-gap measure, not a life-style.
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Old 08-26-2011, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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This is good news. Any way to get people off welfare works for me. It should be a stop-gap measure, not a life-style.
That's what I was thinking. The pro-welfare folks might try to play up the 2% stat to get drug testing rescinded. But I think that if it got pushed, this stat would be presented as a rebuttal.
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Old 08-26-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Yeah, about that...

Numbers show fewer people on welfare (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/numbers-show-fewer-people-on-welfare-08252011 - broken link)



Ya think?

(In before "faux news" BS. It's a local affiliate suckas!)
So....we have a 15% savings in welfare spending here, plus another 2-4% that tested positive for drugs and were cut off.

So, for every 1000 people that would otherwise be on welfare, 180 now are not, correct? Lets make an assumption that these payments run $200 per month per person (if anyone has better numbers please provide).

180 people x 12 months x $200 per month=$432,000 per year.

Cost of testing (1000-180)*$30 per test=$24600

Net savings to the taxpayer per 1000 tests-$407,600

This looks like something that need to be expanded across the country. The people of FL have choosen not to have their money spent on drug addicts...and saved money as a nice side benefit. win-win
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Old 08-26-2011, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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This is what I call CHANGE you can believe in!
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Old 08-26-2011, 07:54 AM
 
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Digging deeper into the numbers shows another trend: since the drug testing law passed, there's been a 15 percent drop in the number of people getting government assistance.
Is this a 15% drop in FL reciepients receiving cash assistance since July 1? or 15% drop overall?

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Also, the number of people who applied for assistance but never showed up to take the drug test was about 2 percent. Again, the reasons why could vary.

Sounds inconclusive as to if the drop is relevant to the drug testing. A 2% no show isnt a strong correlation to a 15% total drop.
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Old 08-26-2011, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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It may be inconclusive, but since the economy in FL is still down, all signs point towards people not wanting to get into trouble and getting off the program, perhaps hoping that welfare will come back after the smoke clears.
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Old 08-26-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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So it was new applicants huh? I was going to look up the stats and see if there was a drop in applicants but never got around to it.
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Old 08-26-2011, 08:41 AM
 
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180 people x 12 months x $200 per month=$432,000 per year.

Cost of testing (1000-180)*$30 per test=$24600

Net savings to the taxpayer per 1000 tests-$407,600

This looks like something that need to be expanded across the country.
Completely agree. Look at further cost reductions not calculated. I wonder how many of these people will get themself off drugs, so they can later collect? I wonder what the other costs/savings are on society in general because these people wont have enough money to buy drugs, and food. Will be interesting to see how this pans out, and if there is a drop/increase in crime as a result.
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Old 08-26-2011, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Now they need to test for nicotine and alcohol.

If you are so poor that you need someone else's money to get food, shelter, or health care, you sure as hell don't have a dime to spare for alcohol and cigs.
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