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This case is exactly why I support uniforms for public school.
Can't even wear a rosary around your neck above the shirt in the open at the parochial school where I send my kids, as it doesn't meet the dress code. Unless it is part of a religious function.
Only nuns, priests and brothers wear them as part of their vestments, habits and clerical uniforms.
It appears that the girls intent was to wear it as a piece of jewelry which in and of itself could be considered sacrilegious.
She wants to wear something decoratively, not religiously, and the school has prohibited it because of its association with gang members
I don't think the school would have a problem if this were a religious issue, where she kept the rosaries in her pocket or out of sight, and was using the rosary to keep track of her prayers. The problem is that she wants to display it.
The ACLU is pursuing this case because it's important that we fight to keep things of this nature in the public discourse, that we don't allow bad people to co-opt symbols or items for their own purposes.
And I'll point out that this girl's desire to display the rosary as a decorative piece of jewelry isn't all that different from someone who wants to display the Confederate flag.
I personally have a problem with rosary (prayer) beads in the pocket
because in the very old days one hid their rosary beads for fear
of being strung up and having their throat slit for their beliefs.
The Armenian/Assyrians/Greeks conflict of 1913 comes to mind...
Regardless of why she wants to "wear beads" ...the school should either
enact a policy of "no jewelry" to all students, frisk them at the door,
spray them with antiseptic and do a body search - oh wait ...that's
prison... Thankful for home schooling....
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Apologies. Being Lutheran then you too are Trinitarian so you too have likely had more than the occasional evangelical call you everything from Satan's minion to an idol worshiper. It happens a lot to Catholics and it gets old. I'm sure you can at least on some level empathize and understand where the frustration comes from.
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I agree with this; I am always correcting people ("Um, of course I'm Christian; Catholics are Christians")
but to be fair I didn't read her post as "Catholics aren't Christians"
--rather as she's Christian but not the Catholic variety.
I think I may have. Sorry about that.
Also, do you mean you don't think we should wear even simple crosses/crucifixes?
or just the garish ones (I'm going by the "costume jewelry" description.)
I would agree on the garish stuff but I don't see anything wrong with simple cross jewelry
(well, that which does not involve a rosary, as you can imagine! )
Apologies accepted. Re: religious jewelry-I have a cross that I occasionally wear. I recall a few years back when all the fashion mags (at least the ones my daughters read that are geared to teens/young adults) were showing models wearing crosses and I thought it was sacrilegious. It seemed like they were wearing them for a fashion accessory rather than b/c they were saying "I am a Christian". That is what I meant. I had no idea that rosaries were the latest such 'fashion statement', or that they are gang related.
FREMONT, Neb. -- A Nebraska school district has banned a necklace that looks like a rosary after police told officials it's also being worn by gang members.
Omaha Catholic Archdiocese Chancellor Rev. Joseph Taphorn says Christians shouldn't have to give up a symbol of their faith because others misuse it.
The American Civil Liberties Union opposes the policy, saying it violates the rights of free speech and religion.
Twelve-year-old Elizabeth Carey says she was told by her principal she couldn't wear her necklace. Her parents say they are upset that their daughter is not being allowed to express her religious beliefs.
Wearing a rosary around your neck is sacrilegious, unless the Roman Catholic Church changed policy since I was a kid. The girl wearing it around her neck either never learned this, or is NOT expressing a religious belief at all--merely mocking it.
Wait a minute. How is this possible? Almost every day we're hearing here about how the ACLU is an atheistic organization that is trying to stamp out religion.
Yes, but the ACLU only sides with "victims". If another student of a non-Christian faith was offended by the necklace, and sued the school for allowing it, they would have sided with that plaintiff, not the school. We would have heard something like separation of church and state.
Wearing a rosary around your neck is sacrilegious, unless the Roman Catholic Church changed policy since I was a kid. The girl wearing it around her neck either never learned this, or is NOT expressing a religious belief at all--merely mocking it.
Catholics aren't the only ones who use "prayer beads"...
Yes, but the ACLU only sides with "victims". If another student of a non-Christian faith was offended by the necklace, and sued the school for allowing it, they would have sided with that plaintiff, not the school. We would have heard something like separation of church and state.
Status symbols. Hey I wonder if they let the students run around with their pants around their ankles like the rappers do? That's some funny s--t watching those dudes walking down the street holding their pants up, ha , real freakin nice.
The reason that this is a freedom of speech issue and not a freedom of religion issue is that this has nothing to do with her beliefs. She wants to wear something decoratively, not religiously
Wrong.
"Her parents say they are upset that their daughter is not being allowed to express her religious beliefs."
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