Patriotism Is For Suckers. (enemies, accuse, March, economic)

[rimmerama]

Originally Posted by ambient

I'm all for patriotism within reason. It's good to be a productive member of society. But I generally gather an impression of people who are overly patriotic as weak and narrow-minded...much like those who are overly religious.

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. - Samuel Johnson

[flip33]

What about OUR oil?

There is no OUR oil. It is for sale to the highest bidder.

American oil companies are not prohibited from selling oil to growing nations, are they?

[Blue Grass Fever]

Originally Posted by Sunnysee

Time for a New Quote~

"A man's country is a land where he chooses to live because of the principles he embraces, and having found other men that share the same principles, this is his country for he has found others of a truly Kindred-Spirit." - Sunnysee

So....Rush Limbaugh would move to Thailand with a handful of erection pills based on the "free-market" sex trade along with his peers? All in principle?

If so, good riddance........

[Blue Grass Fever]

[quote=momonkey;21155996]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

What is the meaning of patriotism in a globalized world? The uber rich can be just as comfortable in a $5,000 dpd room at the Peninsula Hotel in Hong Kong as they can be at the Plaza in New York. When a Gulfstream V can get you anywhere in the world when ever you want, who cares about TSA, or when you business and financial interest travel across the internet at the speed of light.

The purpose of this thread isn't to bash the rich but to point out that for the very rich and powerful, allegiance to any one nation can be counter counterproductive and hostile to one's personal interest.






"The purpose of this thread isn't to bash the rich"

OK Mr. Ovcatto. If you say it isn't, then it must be true.

If reading comprehension isn't your forte, let me explain the point that was brought up by the OP.

In a world of where "Born in the U.S.A" playing with R. Regan in the backdrop; where "country" is first. (community, neighborhood, local, county, state..) There is a few people who own and control a large degree of our "country" by means of political favors of legislation that how can they ever be genuinely invested in our country. It raises a serious focal point on the state of affairs.

See....?

[PeakOfDominance]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

What is the meaning of patriotism in a globalized world? The uber rich

what does being rich have to do with patriotism??

The purpose of this thread isn't to bash the rich

the fact that you brought them up in the first place suggests otherwise.

[PeakOfDominance]

Originally Posted by Blue Grass Fever

There is a few people who own and control a large degree of our "country" by means of political favors of legislation that how can they ever be genuinely invested in our country. It raises a serious focal point on the state of affairs.

See....?

[URL="http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/News/Richest-members-of-Congress/5703/1/"]Richest members of Congress - UPI.com[/URL]

actually, thats a lie. of the top 20 political figures listed, half are democrats. furthermore, the majority of dems inherited their wealth, whereas republicans actually worked for their wealth:

1. Rep. Michael McCaul, (R-TX) - $294.21 million (wife's parents:Clear Channel)
2. Darrell Issa (R-CA) - $220.4 million (Directed Electronics)
3. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) - $193 million (Wife's first husband)
4. Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) - $81.63 million (trusts)
5. Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) - $76.3 million (Nextel)
6. Rep. Jared Polis, (D-CO) - $65.91 million (dotcoms/internet commerce)
7. Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) - $55 million (wife)
8. Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) - $52.93 million (wife)
9. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) - $45.39 million (investments)
10. Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-Fla.) - $44.21 million (auto dealerships)
11. Rep. Jim Renacci (R-Ohio) - $35.87 million (investments)
12. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) - $35.2 million (husband)
13. Rep. Rick Berg (R-N.D.) - $21.6 million (real estate)
14. Rep. Bob Corker (R-TN) - $21.18 million (real estate)
15. Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-NJ) - $20.35 million (family trusts)
16. Sen. James Risch (R-ID) - $19.78 million (farms)
17. Rep. Gary Miller (R-Cali.) - $17.45 million (real estate)
18. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo) - $17 million (husband)
19. Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-Tex) $16.45 million (properties in texas?)
20. Rep. Nita Lowey (D-NY) - $15.46 million (IRAs and funds)

of the 10 democrats listed, 7 of them did nothing to earn their wealth, whereas the vast majority of republicans worked for their money.

the point is, wealth seems to be evenly distributed, but the left loves to blame the right by saying they hold most of the wealth in the usa. this couldnt be farther from the truth.

ps - im neither d or r. both parties are acting like children right now.

[Lithium]

Originally Posted by sol11

Patriotism Is For Suckers.

Well, there are a lot of "suckers" in my generation. Of course, we're the ones who actually sing the National Anthem, knows flag etiquette, and remove our headwear when Old Glory passes. I really feel sorry for those of you who think patriotism is tied to wealth, and that the ability to move freely and quickly from one continent to another diminishes the love of ones own country.

I have no dislike of Patriotism, but the things about how you have to remove your hat or whatever, that's ridiculous. It's a meaningless gesture, unless you want it to be one. It in and of itself means nothing. It doesn't make you a bigger patriot, and it doesn't make the person who leaves their hat on any less of one...

[SNEwx_46]

Originally Posted by NorthGAbound12

I love how the superior-being small government conservatives on here completely missed the point of your OP and then ran with it on some liberal bashing rant as if it's the least bit relevant. It's like watching a Fail Train in action.

It's like every thread, no matter who starts it.

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by Sunnysee

No Patriotism in a "globalized world?" You think we've erased all borders, now? or just your wishful thinking?

Our kids have been bred out of their patriotism, but thankfully some still retain it.

Not long ago, some liberal think-tank or idiot libs independently? were caught speaking about the problems with having kids at parades that had flags, military in uniform, etc. They actually lamented that it made the kids likely to be patriotic and they said it in a bad way.

Dangme, I've got to find that report about it, again. It was very telling, but not about kids, parades or Patriotism.

Was very telling about the *******s.

Do you think it's patriotic to regularly and consistently demean your fellow Americans?

[box_of_zip_disks]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

Do you think it's patriotic to regularly and consistently demean your fellow Americans?

Well when you don't think your fellow Americans are in fact actual Americans it comes fairly easily.