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Old 10-07-2011, 03:56 PM
 
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Actually, all Obama has to do is point out the incompetence of the other candidates, which there is much to point out on most of the front-runners.

The only candidate I can see beating Obama is Ron Paul, but he's unelectable due to the fact that he goes against the mainstream. He's the Denis Kuchinich of the right. Good for the country, bad for the camera/party.

Which, sadly enough, is what this boils down to. What is best for this country cannot be elected. Only what looks pretty and spins a good tale.
Americans are more impressed by how you look and how you talk... Obama won on those points but he also was on the push for "change"... unfortunately, when Obama came to office, they were all bad changes... The GOP field has a lot of okay-looking guys that can talk... and Americans are getting tired of Obama...
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Americans are more impressed by how you look and how you talk... Obama won on those points but he also was on the push for "change"... unfortunately, when Obama came to office, they were all bad changes...
Not all. He did change a few things for the good, such as DADT.

But he came in spinning something to pander to the liberals, and we just got 4 more years of President Bush.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Actually, all Obama has to do is point out the incompetence of the other candidates, which there is much to point out on most of the front-runners.

The only candidate I can see beating Obama is Ron Paul, but he's unelectable due to the fact that he goes against the mainstream. He's the Denis Kuchinich of the right. Good for the country, bad for the camera/party.

Which, sadly enough, is what this boils down to. What is best for this country cannot be elected. Only what looks pretty and spins a good tale.

Sorry, that isn't a winning campaign formula. Simply saying other candidates are incompetent doesn't cut it, especially when the one saying it is presiding over 9.1% unemployment, $14 tillion deficit and endless wars. Not exactly the resume of a competent Commander in Chief.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Sorry, that isn't a winning campaign formula. Simply saying other candidates are incompetent doesn't cut it, especially when the one saying it is presiding over 9.1% unemployment, $14 tillion deficit and endless wars. Not exactly the resume of a competent Commander in Chief.
But it is the reality of the situation. Unless the frontrunners can prove that they can actually deliver the results, I'm not too entirely sure that they can be elected.

And God help us if Perry or Bachman gets to office.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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No. last years excuse was Georgie did it. This year's excuse is wittle Johnny won't play with me. What is next year's excuse? Btw, Larry Summers has already said he is not an adult.
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Take away that he walked in to the Great Depression and the economic mess that was handed to him by his predecessors and his record is fine. You might not like his healthcare reform, but a half dozen Presidents tried to past that including Reagan and failed.

Most of your whining is basically that he inherited the country and it was a mess when he got it.

Time to put away the emotion, think instead and act like an adult.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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But it is the reality of the situation. Unless the frontrunners can prove that they can actually deliver the results, I'm not too entirely sure that they can be elected.

And God help us if Perry or Bachman gets to office.

Yeah, the can and they will. I am sure most people will view a change in leadership essential. Nobody could do any worse. Really, there isn't anything any candidate could do that would put us in a worse position than we are already in.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Americans want the country to undergo a thorough political cleansing!
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Americans want the country to undergo a thorough political cleansing!
And they don't realise that they can cleanse all they want.

Nothing will actually change until we vote people who actually will do good for America, which doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:30 PM
 
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Americans want a one party political system, all Republicans. That way everything will be fine and wonderful.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:51 PM
 
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People see Obama reaching out to the protesting anarchists and hippy burnouts and they get turned off. Those people are part of the problem and will never be part of any solution. All he can do is pit people against one another the the status quo continue. And those mainstream people who do see problems with the system and want somebody to spearhead reform, they look at Obama and realize he's never going to be the one to do it because he's on the banks and the major money movers payroll. And then you have the Obama supporters themselves who turn mainstream people away. One look at MSNBC and you realize just how out of touch and even warped his propagandists are.
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