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So if it's the Bank's property, but they have YOUR money, how does that work? Do you not have a right to claim your own property in a private business, just because they don't like the way you look?
They werent in there to get their money. Read the thread.. That was their initial excuse, then of course they switched to wanting to open up new accounts.
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If they were disrupting business I'd get it, but in the video I posted, they weren't. One sign, held near the floor, and no screaming, shouting or chanting. All three women in the bank had accounts there that they wanted to close--they were all legitimate customers.
There was far more than 3 people there. Did you even watch your own video?
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If that's how B of A wants to treat their customers, I'm glad I don't bank there. I think this is a public relations nightmare for them.
Not really. I have no problem with banks holding the "peace" and establishing standards for people who are standing inside their banks. In the same manner you cant carry a gun while wearing a mask, asking for a "withdraw". You can choose to conduct business at places that allow such things, I'll take my business to where I feel much safer.
Are you going their for a LEGAL reason? If you dont understand the difference between showing up at an establishment to conduct business, and to protest, then I feel sorry for you. I suppose when you ask your customers if they want fries with their meal, and they respond with "yes", you tell them that they cant have them because there isnt a sign on the door which allows fries with their meal
Your take on the trespass law is as far off as those you are arguing with. You can perfectly well enter a premises for any reason you like. There is no definition of a "legal" reason in such a context. I want to use the john...or get out of the heat...or check out the decor...
I would even think to protest and leaflet.
You would of course be required to leave when requested. But no trespass until that happened.
One could I suppose post a notice that says no protesting.
To be unlawful you must be notified. That is why rural places put up signs and Casinos have their guards tell you to leave. You cannot be unlawful without notification.
No, actually that's not the only way for it to be unlawful (see excerpt below). I can't walk into your house and take a nap on your couch and claim it's not trespass because you didn't have a sign on your door.
Every unlawful entry onto another's property is trespass, even if no harm is done to the property. A person who has a right to come onto the land may become a trespasser by committing wrongful acts after entry. For example, a mail carrier has a privilege to walk up the sidewalk at a private home but is not entitled to go through the front door. A person who enters property with permission but stays after he has been told to leave also commits a trespass. Moreover, an intruder cannot defend himself in a trespass action by showing that the plaintiff did not have a completely valid legal right to the property. The reason for all of these rules is that the action of trespass exists to prevent breaches of the peace by protecting the quiet possession of real property.
They werent in there to get their money. Read the thread.. That was their initial excuse, then of course they switched to wanting to open up new accounts.
There was far more than 3 people there. Did you even watch your own video?
Not really. I have no problem with banks holding the "peace" and establishing standards for people who are standing inside their banks. In the same manner you cant carry a gun while wearing a mask, asking for a "withdraw". You can choose to conduct business at places that allow such things, I'll take my business to where I feel much safer.
My video--the one that I posted--has three women going into the bank to close accounts. Someone was behind them with a camera--my bad--that makes 4. All three women had legitimate accounts that they wanted to close.
If they were in my business chanting and screaming, I'd kick them out and call the cops too--they don't have the right to interfere with my other customers. When their only "crime" is holding a sign near the ground, and they're not stopping business or creating chaos--I think the bank manager was walking on pretty shakey ground.
Your take on the trespass law is as far off as those you are arguing with. You can perfectly well enter a premises for any reason you like. There is no definition of a "legal" reason in such a context. I want to use the john...or get out of the heat...or check out the decor...
I would even think to protest and leaflet.
You would of course be required to leave when requested. But no trespass until that happened.
One could I suppose post a notice that says no protesting.
In this specific case, you are correct. They need to be requested to leave for it to be trespass given the nature of the business.
Had they walked into the president of the banks house then it would have been trespass immediately without a request to leave.
No, actually that's not the only way for it to be unlawful (see excerpt below). I can't walk into your house and take a nap on your couch and claim it's not trespass because you didn't have a sign on your door.
So when I go into to Mcdonalds for the purpose of buying food, I am trespassing?
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