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Do U.S. diplomats have diplomatic immunity in the U.S.?
Would a British citizen have diplomatic immunity in the U.K.?
Yes.
US diplomats don't have diplomatic immunity in the US, because they have no need for diplomatic immunity. When they are in the US, they aren't diplomats.
However, US citizens certainly can have diplomatic immunity in the US. Princess Grace was an American citizen who married into the royalty of Monaco. When she traveled back to the United States, she had diplomatic immunity. I have a friend from South Africa whose mother is American. He is a dual citizen of South Africa and of the United States. He also has diplomatic credentials from South Africa, which protect him whenever he is traveling outside South Africa, including when he is in the United States.
The DNC already publicly admitted that Obama's status was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948.
The State Dept confirms that "Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice." And "dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country."
They are both correct. Obama was born subject to the jurisdiction of and owing allegiance to a foreign power. He does not meet the 14th Amendment's birthright citizenship requirements. Legally, he's not even a U.S. citizen. He is only considered to be a citizen under current policy.
Obama was born subject to the jurisdiction of and owing allegiance to the United States. The only way he would be MORE subject to the jurisdiction of and owing allegiance to Great Britain would be if the laws of Great Britain subjugated the laws of the United States. You argue that they do, but when called on it, you say only that the laws co-exist. If they co-exist, then Obama's presence on US soil trumps the British law, because British jurisdiction can never, ever supercede American jurisdiction on US soil, unless we're talking about a British occupying army, or a British diplomat.
Utter BS. The Italian citizenship application requires ascendants' birth certificates, naturalization certificates, and ascendants' signed declarations that they never renounced their Italian citizenship. Processing and verifying the application from time of submission takes Italian officials at least one year.
Of course. Why would they give the benefits and privileges of their citizenship to somebody who couldn't prove they were a citizen? We certainly wouldn't.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
It's nothing like applying for a U.S. passport.
It's exactly like applying for a US Passport. Go read the instructions again, particularly for those born outside of the US.
The problem you have is that a US diplomat's credentials are provided by the US. So when Joseph Kennedy's family went to England, their diplomatic credentials aren't voided because Kennedy would also have been considered an Irish citizen.
Was he a actually an Irish citizen, though? JFK wasn't.
Plans were made to grant honorary Irish citizenship to President JFK during his visit to Ireland in 1963 but this was abandoned due to the multitude of legal difficulties and consequences of granting a foreign head of state citizenship.
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The files also show that plans to make Mr Kennedy an honorary Irish citizen were scrapped after extensive behind-the-scenes consultations.
The awarding of the honour was to have been one of the high points of the president's four-day visit to Ireland but Irish and American officials raised so many legal difficulties that the plan was abandoned.
They are both correct. Obama was born subject to the jurisdiction of and owing allegiance to a foreign power.
This is not possible.
The UK has no jurisdiction over Hawaii.
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