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Old 11-07-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yet Obama and the Dems see nothing wrong with millions pouring across our borders to compete with these young men for scarce jobs.

I just don't get it.

Generation Jobless: Young Men Suffer Worst in Weak Job Market - WSJ.com

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Mr. Preston has a steady job, making parts for recreational vehicles for $11 an hour. And living with his parents rent-free allows him to start paying off debt he built up during the slump, he says. But he keeps looking for work that will pay the $14 an hour he made installing granite. What made construction especially attractive was the potential for lots of overtime, which allowed him to beef up his paychecks.

On a recent afternoon, he sat in his parents' kitchen, combing online classified ads. But construction work remains scarce and other positions available for which he's qualified don't pay more than he makes at the factory.

Sue Preston, his mother, says several of her friends are helping out their grown sons, providing either money or shelter or both. She works in payroll at a telecommunications company, and neither she nor her husband, a truck driver who worked his way up into operations, has a college degree. That wasn't an issue when they were starting out, she says: Trade and production jobs were not only available, in many cases they paid enough that many blue-collar wives didn't have to work.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Yet Obama and the Dems see nothing wrong with millions pouring across our borders to compete with these young men for scarce jobs.

I just don't get it.

Generation Jobless: Young Men Suffer Worst in Weak Job Market - WSJ.com
They are also the "Everyone Gets A Trophy" generation.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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It's mostly because "young men" have been sissified.

They were coddled by their parents to the point of being socially crippled.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:43 AM
 
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uh oh, sounds like it's "internet tough guy" time.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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They are also the "Everyone Gets A Trophy" generation.
And Rudy Giuliani says that instead of taking part in protests maybe they should get a job and work. Of course, we have seen some cases where they say they aren't going to work for the small wages they could get. Living with parents is one very usual answer but if they work a little to contribute to their living. Too many of the "protesters" don't have jobs because they don't want to have jobs.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:49 AM
 
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uh oh, sounds like it's "internet tough guy" time.
What's so tough about speaking the truth?

It's easier to live in mommy's basement.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:49 AM
 
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They are also the "Everyone Gets A Trophy" generation.
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It's mostly because "young men" have been sissified.

They were coddled by their parents to the point of being socially crippled.
I agree with both of these statements. I would add that the notion that everyone must get a college degree in order to succeed has greatly diminished the role of manlihood in society. It is hardly looked upon favorably to be someone who sheds blood, sweat, and tears to make a living. Which is unfortunate, because I can say there are days when I would give anything to be performing manual labor versus using my brain trust on the daily input/output required to maintain a successful business.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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Add in automation, increased productivity and efficiency of companies today, the changes in pay structures, crushing student debt just to get a good job in the first place, globalization, men getting ripped apart by divorce, and it is hard to see when, or how, our young men will recover.

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They are also the "Everyone Gets A Trophy" generation.
A generation of men raised by women. Coddled in the school system. Treated like criminals in the classroom. Be a girl.

This is actually an important issue that is easily dismissed because men are trained not to talk about what is bothering them.

I welcome the return of men.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Making $11/hr, wants $14/hr. What happened to all the conservative "pull yourself up by your boot-straps" and "free-market" rhetoric. Mr. Preston will have to realize that conservatives are the ones who have been and are telling him that the skills he has, are only worth $11/hr. Not the $14/hr he was making installing granite.

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Old 11-07-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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What's so tough about speaking the truth?

It's easier to live in mommy's basement.
The truth? You're just parroting a bunch of garbage about people being "sissified". I don't see where men in past generations have been any different.. disco was an abomination, and the Bee Gees look pretty sissy to me.

Oh, and I don't get this whole "trophy generation" thing. Some of the criticisms of millenials I understand, but this isn't one of them. I don't remember being brought up like that.
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