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Old 12-09-2011, 07:06 AM
 
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One homosexual is more destructive to America than a thousand terrorists.
Most troll statement ever. Here's a gold medal for trolling.
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Old 12-09-2011, 07:13 AM
 
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I'm glad somebody dismissed Freudism..

At least now we can also dismiss the fact that Freud, as well as many deluded homosexuals and confused individuals, believed/s all sexual emotions should not be oppressed.
I don't know anyone who claims that ALL sexual emotions should not be suppressed. But it is also unhealthy to suppress ALL sexual urges, which is basically the standard gays are held up to in many parts of the world. Generally people are expected to suppress their urges in some situations (e.g. if they find their boss/assistant professor/student etc. attractive) but in other cases they are encouraged to act on their urges. After all, when people suppress their urges unreasonably, this is what happens:

Top 10 Anti-Gay Politicians Caught Being Gay: Anti-Gay Activists Out of The Closet
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Old 12-09-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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Never let your children near a homosexual or lesbian.
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If parents strictly controlled their children..never let them out their sight..homosexuals would eventually die out.

Their perverted, hedonistic lifestyle needs to recruit children in order to survive.

Watch your kids. They seek them.
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One homosexual is more destructive to America than a thousand terrorists.
Thanks for a perfect example of willfully ignorant, particularly malicious, fact-free anti-gay propaganda.

Here are some facts: (not that you will read them).

"Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women. In a similar fashion, gay people have often been portrayed as a threat to children."
Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation


"Studies on who commits child sexual abuse vary in their findings, but the most common finding is that the majority of sexual offenders are family members or are otherwise known to the child. Sexual abuse by strangers is not nearly as common as sexual abuse by family members. Research further shows that men perpetrate most instances of sexual abuse, but there are cases in which women are the offenders. Despite a common myth, homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are."
Understanding Child Sexual Abuse: Education, Prevention, and Recovery



Journal of the American Medical Association

"One study noted that 98% of these male perpetrators self-identified as heterosexual."

Sexual Abuse of Boys. Definition, Prevalence, Correlates, Sequelae, and Management William C. Holmes, MD, MSCE; Gail B. Slap, MD, MS JAMA. 1998;280:1855-1862.

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Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics

“..a child’s risk of being molested by his or her relative’s heterosexual partner is 100 times greater than by someone who might be identified as a homosexual."

(Carole Jenny et al., Are Children at Risk for Sexual Abuse by Homosexuals?; 94 Pediatrics 41; July 1994)

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Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry

"The man who offends against prepubertal or immediately postpubertal boys is typically not sexually interested in older men or in women"
McConaghy N. (1998) Paedophilia: A review of the evidence. Aust N Z J Psychiatry. 1998 Apr;32(2):252-65; discussion 266-7.


Behavior Research and Therapy
"Amongst the heterosexuals, the commonest remarks concerning attractive features of the victims, were that the young boys did not have any body hair and that their bodies were soft and smooth."

Marshal, W.L.; Barbaree, H.E.; Butt, Jennifer. “Sexual offenders against male children: Sexual preferences.”

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Archives of Sexual Behavior
“The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual."

Groth, A. N., & Gary, T. S. (1982). Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and pedophilia: Sexual offenses against children and adult sexual orientation.

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Social Work and Child Sexual Abuse
"Homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia are not synonymous. In fact, it may be that these two orientations are mutually exclusive, the reason being that the homosexual male is sexually attracted to masculine qualities whereas the heterosexual male is sexually attracted to feminine characteristics, and the sexually immature child’s qualities are more feminine than masculine. . . . The child offender who is attracted to and engaged in adult sexual relationships is heterosexual. It appears, therefore, that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater sexual risk to underage children than does the adult homosexual male."

A. Nicholas Groth, William F. Hobson, and Thomas S. Gary, “The Child Molester: Clinical Observations,” in Social Work and Child Sexual Abuse, eds. Jon R. Conte and David A. Shore (New York: Haworth Press, 1982), p.136.

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Journal of Sex Research

“Homosexual males who preferred physically mature partners responded no more to male children than heterosexual males who preferred physically mature partners responded to female children”
Freund, Kurt; Watson, Robin J.; Rienzo, Douglas. “Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and the erotic age preference.” Journal of Sex Research 26, no. 1 (1989): 107-117

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Archives of Sexual Behavior

“The adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male”

“The belief that homosexuals are particularly attracted to children is completely unsupported by our data.”

(Groth and Birnbaum, “Adult Sexual Orientation and Attraction to Underage Persons.”)

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Journal of Psychology and Human Sexuality

“A gay man is no more likely than a straight man to perpetrate sexual activity with children.”
(Stevenson, “Public Policy, Homosexuality and the Sexual Coercion of Children.”)

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Old 12-09-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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being gay isn't a behavior you know. i'm 34 and still a virgin,
your saving yourself...you got to get out there and mix it up.
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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Awesome. So if you were forced to have sex with only the same sex, you'd be fine. Right?

Can you explain why there are gay people in countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia, that have the death penalty written into law for homosexuality? If it was as easy as a choice, why would these gay people not just choose to be heterosexual? What possible motivation could they have to "choose" to be gay?

Where are we telling countries what to do? We aren't telling them they have to follow our laws. We're just doing what we want with our own money. If a someone asks their friend for money for dinner and and the friend says says yes, and then that person asks their friend for money for drugs, and the friend says no, would anyone in their right mind think that's unreasonable? That's essentially what we're doing. Our money, our choice how we give it out. We're not telling them to "stop doing drugs" so to speak, but we're not about to finance it either.
Some people choose to be different, because they have a strong need to be heard.

When you were a child and your parents told you not to do something, that very thing is the thing you most wanted to do. It's called today, pushing the envelope. Or as the song goes, "I got to be free". No one is going to tell another person what they can and cannot do.

People get the death penalty for killing another person, (no one has to kill, they choose to do so) you don't see people stopping the murdering of others any time soon, do you?

Consult Freud, psychologist on human behavior and really the only best bet for a person to have on selling their inability to choose the sex in which they most want to have sex with. One bizarre thing I have read he wrote about was how children when they are learning how to crawl, they scoot on the floor for sexual arousal. Freud in my opinion was a fraud, but he's the best bet on gayness inability to choose. If I remember right, according to him, every one is born gay.

People can choose who they are attracted to and who they are not attracted to. Psychology is not an exact science. However, a person can not choose the color of their skin. Sex is a moral issue, not a culture one and the person should take it up with their God, not law makers of the land.

It's just sex. Homosexuals need to get over themselves and take it back to the privacy of the bedroom and out of the public square. Modesty works for me.

As for as other countries laying out the laws for the conduct of this behavior, it is none of our business. This would be like telling China they must place the same equality value on girl babies as they do boy babies. It is my understanding they still believe it is the woman's fault the girl babies are born first. The man has nothing to do with.

When are we going to stop trying to tell other countries they need to step like the U.S.? Obama and Hilary, in my opinion, are showing their immaturity.

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Old 12-09-2011, 11:52 AM
 
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How about this... let's mandate drugging global civilization so we are all passive, oblivious, emotionless goons.
Actually this is being done. I read an article I believe the title was, "Americans on Drugs". There is a tie in, into the promo of pharmaceuticals and psychiatry. I shot the article to a friend of mine in an email, that lives in Germany. I got a similar one back.
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:56 AM
 
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You do realize the vast majority of gay people have straight parents, right? And the vast majority of gay parents have straight children.
Then the development of a person's sexuality, can't be in the gene pool.
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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Then the development of a person's sexuality, can't be in the gene pool.
Sexuality is not passed on by a single gene from one's parents. That's not how it works, and no one claimed differently.

That doesn't make it any less inborn and biological.
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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I don't know anyone who claims that ALL sexual emotions should not be suppressed. But it is also unhealthy to suppress ALL sexual urges, which is basically the standard gays are held up to in many parts of the world. Generally people are expected to suppress their urges in some situations (e.g. if they find their boss/assistant professor/student etc. attractive) but in other cases they are encouraged to act on their urges. After all, when people suppress their urges unreasonably, this is what happens:

Top 10 Anti-Gay Politicians Caught Being Gay: Anti-Gay Activists Out of The Closet
What about those who must have sex by rape, or with corpses, or with animals... they shouldn't suppress either right?

And this is where I stop, because if there is a line for online discussions...but you get my drift.
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:06 PM
 
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Sexuality is not passed on by a single gene from one's parents. That's not how it works, and no one claimed differently.

That doesn't make it any less inborn and biological.
Yes, it does. You can't choose the color of your skin or the shape of your eyes, but you can control your behavior. It you can't then their is something more wrong with a person's psychi than they are willing to admit.
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