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Old 12-13-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: California
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Well, it's economic hardship keeping my 21 year old son at home, and a 24 year old family friend who has been living with me off and on for a couple years too. I've always thought of them as 'spoiled' rather than 'homeless'. But those are adults, different story I guess.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:08 PM
 
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Lol, yes, we know how rare it is that human embryos become humans. So at least you give up on any pretense that the pro abortion crowd is pro choice. If they were really pro choice they would be equally culpable in helping woman who choose to bring the embryo to term.

I am happy to hear you are the arbiter of whose life is worth living. Perhaps you would like to ask those you think are better off aborted. Chilling stuff.
So you believe abortion is never a viable option? You are very sheltered, then. Or close-minded because of a religious belief.

I'd rather have a woman given a choice of whether or not to abort than to pressure her into raising a child she is not ready for. Parenthood is a great sacrifice and children shouldn't be born just because "all life is sacred" (as the pro-lifers are so fond of saying). If all life was really sacred to them, they'd concentrate more on helping the children already born at a disadvantage.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The report indicates that children living with other family members or doubling up count as homeless. It didn't break out what percentage of the 1.6 are actually on the streets.

One child is too many, but I sure hate misleading reports.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:56 PM
 
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The report indicates that children living with other family members or doubling up count as homeless. It didn't break out what percentage of the 1.6 are actually on the streets.

One child is too many, but I sure hate misleading reports.
Well I would agree with both statements.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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So you believe abortion is never a viable option? You are very sheltered, then. Or close-minded because of a religious belief.

I'd rather have a woman given a choice of whether or not to abort than to pressure her into raising a child she is not ready for. Parenthood is a great sacrifice and children shouldn't be born just because "all life is sacred" (as the pro-lifers are so fond of saying). If all life was really sacred to them, they'd concentrate more on helping the children already born at a disadvantage.
Nope neither sheltered or religious, simply logical. Killing people is murder, even if they are really little. Yes we know you don't think any life is sacred, except perhaps you own.

Again the pro abortion crowd really isn't pro choice, since you don't see them rushing to help.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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Nope neither sheltered or religious, simply logical. Killing people is murder, even if they are really little. Yes we know you don't think any life is sacred, except perhaps you own.

Again the pro abortion crowd really isn't pro choice, since you don't see them rushing to help.
Your sense of logical isn't the same as mine. And don't put words into my mouth. I never said anything about life not being sacred. I actually believe life to be very precious. That's why I believe people should think long and hard before bringing a child into this world and make sure they are in it for the long haul. The children deserve at least that much.

As a person who is pro-choice, yes, I do help children in need. Why wouldn't I be compassionate? I donate regularly (time and money) to a women-and-children's homeless shelter and to a soup kitchen. When our children are grown, my husband and I are looking forward to becoming foster parents. (Wish as we may to take in foster children, we know our limits. Three children to care for is enough for us right now.)
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Your sense of logical isn't the same as mine. And don't put words into my mouth. I never said anything about life not being sacred. I actually believe life to be very precious. That's why I believe people should think long and hard before bringing a child into this world and make sure they are in it for the long haul. The children deserve at least that much.

As a person who is pro-choice, yes, I do help children in need. Why wouldn't I be compassionate? I donate regularly (time and money) to a women-and-children's homeless shelter and to a soup kitchen. When our children are grown, my husband and I are looking forward to becoming foster parents. (Wish as we may to take in foster children, we know our limits. Three children to care for is enough for us right now.)
On that much we agree. People who can't care for children should not be having them.
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