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Sounds to me like American employers want everything handed to them on a platter. Like they're too good to provide training when they can just hire cheap foreign labor with H1-B visas or even offshore (almost) completely.
I had skills when I graduated but was not able to afford continued training to complete my desired skill set. As a result, government does not allow me to practice my desired profession and won't even let me take the exam required before one may practice. I beluieve I could pass the bar exam today. Whose fault is it I'm not allowed to even take the bar exam? Whatever happened to meritocracy?
Now it's the corporatocracy that refused to give you give you a chance and provide any training to you whilst they were willing to give millions of other people just like you that training. Oh, and the government for wanting you to go to school before you represented people in a court of law. You were singled out, you poor victim you.
I'd love to interview you for a job, just to see how many excuses and how much whining you could come up with on the spot as to why you've failed as badly as you have. I have to say, I've met a lot of lawyers, future lawyers, almost lawyers, jailhouse lawyers, etc. You are the 1st lawyer I've ever seen masquerading as a pizza delivery boy.
So according to the OP, those who spend 50 hours each week searching for a job are deadbeats? We can't sentence goofball posters to unemployment but thankfully we can do that to politicians running for office.
Spending 50 hours a week looking for a job? Riiiiight.
So according to the OP, those who spend 50 hours each week searching for a job are deadbeats? We can't sentence goofball posters to unemployment but thankfully we can do that to politicians running for office.
If you spend 50 hours a week looking for work, and fail to do so after 2 years....you're doing it wrong.
If you spend 50 hours a week looking for work, and fail to do so after 2 years....you're doing it wrong.
You don't work for the Obama administration, by any chance? His policies have wreaked havoc on many industries, especially construction. Maybe you can share with us some methods that work even under this administration. My solution: make a million Federal bureaucrats give up their jobs for six months so a long term unemployed person can take over for that time. However, bureaucrats don't like that one.
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Now it's the corporatocracy that refused to give you give you a chance and provide any training to you whilst they were willing to give millions of other people just like you that training. Oh, and the government for wanting you to go to school before you represented people in a court of law. You were singled out, you poor victim you.
I'd love to interview you for a job, just to see how many excuses and how much whining you could come up with on the spot as to why you've failed as badly as you have. I have to say, I've met a lot of lawyers, future lawyers, almost lawyers, jailhouse lawyers, etc. You are the 1st lawyer I've ever seen masquerading as a pizza delivery boy.
Lawyers, as a special interest group, succeeded in getting government to protect lawyers from competition by creating barriers to entry. Nothing new here, any number of special interests have done as much. What surprises me is that you have apparently fallen for it and sided with the lawyers.
Many people come out of law schools and fail the bar exam, so we know they are not qualified to practice law. But if someone passes the bar exam, is there any legitimate performance-based requirement that only a law degree provides? Or is a law degree requirement only an artificial obstacle designed to reduce competition for a favored class which just happens to have disproportionate representation in legislatures?
Now it's the corporatocracy that refused to give you give you a chance and provide any training to you whilst they were willing to give millions of other people just like you that training. Oh, and the government for wanting you to go to school before you represented people in a court of law. You were singled out, you poor victim you.
I'd love to interview you for a job, just to see how many excuses and how much whining you could come up with on the spot as to why you've failed as badly as you have. I have to say, I've met a lot of lawyers, future lawyers, almost lawyers, jailhouse lawyers, etc. You are the 1st lawyer I've ever seen masquerading as a pizza delivery boy.
Just let me take the bar exam, and then when I pass it, let me do some pro bono work, and then judge the results. How's that sound?
Yes, yes it is. The point I was making is, my salary is above the highest reported salary in the area according to that site. As are a number of my colleagues in various companies.
Dang, now I am so deflated. My math SAT score was only 99th percentile. (pout)
Woo-hoo, I'm so impressed! You're probably also 25 years old; just wait 10-15 years when YOU get laid off. As DH says, "they like them to be 21 years old and have 10 years experience". Don't believe it? Ask a few of your older co-workers (assuming your company has any).
I also own a mountain property in Illinois I'll sell you, cheap!
Oh, you walked into this one! I assume you're familiar with this guy:
For every problem, there exists a simple and elegant solution which is absolutely wrong.
- J. Wagoner, U.C.B. Mathematics
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Big whoop! You're probably no more than 25, either. Just wait a few years!
I think the other thing she completely fails to understand is that no matter how much corporations try to cut costs, the one area where they never try to cheap out is in the operations side of the IT house. Experience there, matters. And the potential for catastrophe when you don't have it is enormous.
In my section of the IT world, I'm about average age, maybe even a little younger. With all the outsourcing and offshoring, companies have never even *attempted* to offshore the network and systems teams because management knows they can't afford to have even one outage or data breach caused by incompetence. Whilst companies such as Microsoft brought in an entire army of H1(b) programmers, their operations teams are still very much homegrown. As companies have been trying to depress salaries and get people taking paycuts, they've continued to treat operations specialists like gold.
Why? Because we can literally flip the switch and turn the whole company off. We're the ones who keep the hackers out and are the first, last, and only line of defense between the status quo and an embarassing national headline (and millions of dollars in fines/expenses) about a data breach. All her doom and gloom predictions about how I'll be replaced by some 21 year old by the time I'm 30 (never mind that I'm well beyond 30 at this point) are completely devoid of any logic, reason, or fact.
The reality that she fails to grasp, is (and this is not arrogant or hyperbole, just a fact), there are some sections of the IT world where you are always treated like the goose that lays the golden eggs. It's just how it is.
But she'll undoubtedly go on with her bitter little rant about how something bad is going to happen to everybody because it happened to her and her husband. Talking about how black the souls of others are whilst she's simultaneously openly hoping for tragedy to befall someone else.
The IT department is not directly related to a companies bottom line. Nobody wants to deal with an arrogant system admin or helpdesk tech either . Whether you believe it or not. The business won't crumble when they fire the old guy and hire and train a new guy. You were once a new guy too.
Now it's the corporatocracy that refused to give you give you a chance and provide any training to you whilst they were willing to give millions of other people just like you that training. Oh, and the government for wanting you to go to school before you represented people in a court of law. You were singled out, you poor victim you.
I'd love to interview you for a job, just to see how many excuses and how much whining you could come up with on the spot as to why you've failed as badly as you have. I have to say, I've met a lot of lawyers, future lawyers, almost lawyers, jailhouse lawyers, etc. You are the 1st lawyer I've ever seen masquerading as a pizza delivery boy.
WOW you are just a miserable human being...No wonder you are such an ardent tea-tarder!!!
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