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Old 12-29-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Seems to be a lot of negative rhetoric. What would you do to counter the Iraq/Iran deal in the area. You all seem to think you are so smart let's here what you would do?
Saudi is filthy rich and armed to the teeth. Let them fight their own battles. What the heck is it to us if Iraq falls into anarchy or Iran bullies the rest of the ME? We have enough oil in our own backyard that we shouldn't be held hostage by that nonsense over there. Oil is a matter of national security so why is our national security need to be defended in the Middle East? We should all see the inherent problem with this. They put us at risk and dealing with them militarily is NOT in our interest.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Saudi is filthy rich and armed to the teeth. Let them fight their own battles. What the heck is it to us if Iraq falls into anarchy or Iran bullies the rest of the ME? We have enough oil in our own backyard that we shouldn't be held hostage by that nonsense over there. Oil is a matter of national security so why is our national security need to be defended in the Middle East? We should all see the inherent problem with this. They put us at risk and dealing with them militarily is NOT in our interest.
But we have to protect the petrodollar at any and all costs.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Florida
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(Reuters) - The United States will sell $29.4 billion in fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, in a deal the White House said would support more than 50,000 jobs and help reinforce regional security in the Gulf amid mounting tension with Iran.

The sale covers 84 new Boeing F-15 fighters with advanced radar equipment and digital electronic warfare systems plus upgrades of 70 older F-15s as well as munitions, spare parts, training, maintenance and logistics.

A White House spokesman said the Saudi arms sales would give the U.S. economy a $3.5 billion annual boost and help bolster exports and jobs.

The Obama administration cleared with Congress more than a year ago the potential sale of more than $60 billion of military hardware to Saudi Arabia over 10 to 15 years, including the F-15s, helicopters and related equipment and services.

The Saudi buildup, part of a wider U.S. buildup of its regional friends and allies, could help offset the departure this month of the last U.S. combat troops in Iraq.

U.S. Saudi fighter jet sale to help offset Iran | Reuters


Looks like President Obama has done quite a bit of pre-planning with this plan.
We are also selling tanks and F16s etc to Iraq. Well over 10 billion worth.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Just as long as we don't mind sharing our advanced weapons systems with Iran, Chaina and Russia though the portal of Saudi Arabia.

Fighting surrogate wars doesn't appear to be a good all around strategy that should be mindlessly applied at the least provocation, especially after we had to rescue the well armed, ultra wealthy arab emerites from Iraq.

Do we really think SA will fight its own battles?

More direct action should be focused on Iran rather than spreading our money, sharing our secret weapons as we await the ultimate invitation from SA to fight their battles. More effort should be going into the overthrow of the Iranian govt. Screw the global ethics of interferring in others' business and violating their soveriegnity as clear evidence indicates Iran is actively attacking the USA and its interests. Knock dorectly on the door of the agressor instead of playing the global Emily Post. Any outcry from our "allies' will soon be quieted when there is profit to be made from association with us.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:01 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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if it wasn't for war we would not have jobs..maybe we should sell nukes to the highest bidders?? would help pay off the deficit..
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Is this why Barry got a Nobel peace prize?
No, this is why:

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Under Obama, an emerging global apparatus for drone killing

In the space of three years, the administration has built an extensive apparatus for using drones to carry out targeted killings of suspected terrorists and stealth surveillance of other adversaries. The apparatus involves dozens of secret facilities, including two operational hubs on the East Coast, virtual Air Force* *cockpits in the Southwest and clandestine bases in at least six countries on two continents.

Senior Democrats barely blink at the idea that a president from their party has assembled such a highly efficient machine for the targeted killing of suspected terrorists. It is a measure of the extent to which the drone campaign has become an awkward open secret in Washington that even those inclined to express misgivings can only allude to a program that, officially, they are not allowed to discuss.
Under Obama, an emerging global apparatus for drone killing - The Washington Post

And according to the Boy King, his is the most transparent administration ever, uh, at least if you over-look the White House visitor logs issue, and then Blackberry/Solyndra issue and about 3,000 other issues.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:52 PM
 
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A White House spokesman said the Saudi arms sales would give the U.S. economy a $3.5 billion annual boost and help bolster exports and jobs.
The figures dont add up, $3.5B annual revenues, to create 50K jobs?

Thats $70,000 a job, and only if 100% of the materials were FREE.. I dont know many fighter jets to be free..

Maybe Obama is using that bs accounting he used in the stimulus..
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:57 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Is this why Barry got a Nobel peace prize?
The peace prize has become a political gift and a joke. Barry is warmonger, just like Bush. I feel bad for the people who were awarded the peace prize when it meant something. Their legacy is now forever tarnished.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:04 PM
 
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The peace prize has become a political gift and a joke. Barry is warmonger, just like Bush. I feel bad for the people who were awarded the peace prize when it meant something. Their legacy is now forever tarnished.
I feel more sorry for anyone who thinks that an award given by a small committee of biased people has any value.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:03 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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The figures dont add up, $3.5B annual revenues, to create 50K jobs?

Thats $70,000 a job, and only if 100% of the materials were FREE.. I dont know many fighter jets to be free..

Maybe Obama is using that bs accounting he used in the stimulus..
I wonder how much of the total figure will convert to campaign donations?
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