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Old 01-22-2012, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Why rely only on textbooks when there are plenty of primary resources?
The textbooks are required to prove that you are not lying about what you were taught. Not that you are wrong about the definition fo NBC. That has already been proven.

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How so? Be specific.
There are a large number of foreign countries that grant their citizenship automatically to US born children of two US citizens.

In fact, even the United States does so for children of our own country born overseas.

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A NON-citizen parent's country very definitely has a VERY valid claim on their offspring's allegiance if their country's nationality law dictates. Such is the case with Obama.
So what? They're still natural born US citizens if born on US soil.

 
Old 01-22-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Who will present the COLB? This is going to be fun.
If it presented at all, it will be by Jablonski.
 
Old 01-22-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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The only way to have a certified copy of Obama’s COLB submitted as evidence is to call Obama as a witness and have him produce it for the Court’s consideration.
For our entertainment, will you care to explain how you arrived at that conclusion? This should be good.
 
Old 01-22-2012, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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We've been through the Italian citizenship thing.
Yes... and even though you've been eviscerated several times, you still spout the same nonsense in the effort to avoid it.

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One must apply for and have their citizenship request approved.
This is a lie.

You must apply to have your citizenship recognized, not "approved;" exactly as it says on the application itself.

Exactly as you must apply in the UK to have your citizenship recognized.

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I've posted the link to the Italian Consulate's application forms many times here on c-d.
And every time have pretended that it does not directly refute you, when it does.
 
Old 01-22-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Sorry, the DNC posted info on their website stating Obama was born subject to British law.
That's okay.

He is still a natural born US citizen.
 
Old 01-22-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Ahhh but..opposing Counsel would have the opportunity to cross examine the witness and impeach the evidence through his sworn testimony.

Is this a certified copy of the only birth record you’ve requested from the Hawaii?

Can you describe the certified copy of any other birth record you’ve requested and received from Hawaii?

Does the certified copy of the birth record you’ve submitted to the Court as evidence have signatures of witnesses who attested to your birth?

Did the certified copy of the long form you’ve requested have witnesses who signed statements attesting to the act of your birth?

Obama will not show and his attorney cannot produce evidence without him or an official from Hawaii.
 
Old 01-22-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The Judge reads the case file number and ask representatives of the parties to introduce themselves for the record. The Judge then says, “Call your first witness.”

Who? A Hawaii seal?
Nobody needs to present any witnesses if they don't want to.
 
Old 01-22-2012, 07:26 PM
 
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Sorry, the DNC posted info on their website stating Obama was born subject to British law.
And they're doing that for what purpose? If everybody knows this is disqualifying and all...
 
Old 01-22-2012, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The attorney needs a witness..to present evidence. lol
Oh? And on what planet is that true?

Because it's not true on this one.
 
Old 01-22-2012, 07:29 PM
 
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How did this ghost witness obtain the COLB? How did he preserve it? Who’s had access to it?
A signed and certified birth certificate is considered a self-authenticating document under FRE 902. Obama would have no need to answer those questions, it's prima facie evidence. The burden would be on the other party to specifically rebut its validity.
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