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The ACLU’s FOIA request sought merely to learn the legal and factual basis for these killings — meaning: tell us what legal theories you’ve adopted to secretly target U.S. citizens for execution, and what factual basis did you have to launch these specific strikes? The DOJ and CIA responded not only by refusing to provide any of this information, but refused even to confirm if any of the requested documents exist; in other words, as the ACLU put it yesterday, “these agencies are saying the targeted killing program is so secret that they can’t even acknowledge that it exists.”
For all of you mind-poisoned Limbots and Dittoheads...
This is what the ACLU does and has always done. They petition the government on behalf of citizens or they sue in cases where the government is out of bounds.
They aren't a big bad organization that represents Wall St banks against homeowners. You have no reason to hate them. But you're told to, so you do.
the ACLU is disliked because of some of the cases they took, like this one:
The Manhattan-based public-interest law firm is defending the North American Man-Boy Love Association in a $200 million civil lawsuit filed by Mr. and Mrs. Robert Curley. The Curleys claim that Charles Jaynes was driven by the literature and website of NAMBLA, an outfit that advocates sex between grown men and little boys, reportedly as young as age 8.
Jaynes did not simply read NAMBLA's materials and ponder its message. He and Salvatore Sicari actively sought a boy with whom to copulate. They picked 10-year-old Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge, Massachusetts. They lured him into their car as he played outside his home in October 1997. When Curley resisted their sexual advances, they choked him to death with a gasoline-soaked rag. Then they took the boy's body across state lines to Jayne's apartment in Manchester, New Hampshire. They molested the cadaver and stuffed it into a cement-filled Rubbermaid container. Finally, they crossed state lines again into Maine, whereupon they tossed Jeffrey Curley's remains into the Great Works River, from which it was recovered within days
there really are some cases for which there is NO DEFENSE.
the ACLU is disliked because of some of the cases they took, like this one:
The Manhattan-based public-interest law firm is defending the North American Man-Boy Love Association in a $200 million civil lawsuit filed by Mr. and Mrs. Robert Curley. The Curleys claim that Charles Jaynes was driven by the literature and website of NAMBLA, an outfit that advocates sex between grown men and little boys, reportedly as young as age 8.
Jaynes did not simply read NAMBLA's materials and ponder its message. He and Salvatore Sicari actively sought a boy with whom to copulate. They picked 10-year-old Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge, Massachusetts. They lured him into their car as he played outside his home in October 1997. When Curley resisted their sexual advances, they choked him to death with a gasoline-soaked rag. Then they took the boy's body across state lines to Jayne's apartment in Manchester, New Hampshire. They molested the cadaver and stuffed it into a cement-filled Rubbermaid container. Finally, they crossed state lines again into Maine, whereupon they tossed Jeffrey Curley's remains into the Great Works River, from which it was recovered within days
there really are some cases for which there is NO DEFENSE.
You totally misrepresented what went on here. Jaymes was not afiliated with NAMBLA in any respect. NAMBLA was on the other side of the country and all they did was advocate for laws concerning age of consent be modified. Their website was strictly an advocate for changes in the law. It did not contain one ounce of pornography.
In your warped thinking, If I have a website that argues for a Constitutional amendment restricting the ability of government to wage war or lessening punishment for refusing to serve...I should be jailed for soldiers that go AWOL
Last edited by padcrasher; 02-02-2012 at 05:21 PM..
The ACLU’s FOIA request sought merely to learn the legal and factual basis for these killings — meaning: tell us what legal theories you’ve adopted to secretly target U.S. citizens for execution, and what factual basis did you have to launch these specific strikes? The DOJ and CIA responded not only by refusing to provide any of this information, but refused even to confirm if any of the requested documents exist; in other words, as the ACLU put it yesterday, “these agencies are saying the targeted killing program is so secret that they can’t even acknowledge that it exists.”
The ACLU gets mixed up in their share of nonsense, but they do have a strong penchant for living up to their name even when it means going against the partisan grain. They were probably the lone liberal voice to stand up for Larry Craig when he was railroaded by a sleazy cop in an absurd sting. In fact they may be one of few liberal voices, along w/ maybe Ralph Nader, who can call themselves 'liberal' without having to lie thru their teeth.
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