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Geez, is anyone surprised? A 2-1 ruling by the most liberal panel in the nation, that is overturned more than any other by SCOTUS I believe.
You believe incorrectly. On a per capita basis, the 9th is the least overturned circuit (the 9th decides nearly twice the number of cases each year as the next largest circuit - the 5th circuit).
Family Group Vows: We will Defend Marriage and Proposition 8
Sacramento, CA--The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled today that Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot initiative that codified the traditional definition of marriage, is invalid and unconstitutional.
"This is a stunning assault on democracy and California's initiative process," explained Karen England, Executive Director of pro-family group Capitol Resource Institute and a key leader in the passage of Proposition 8. "Well over 50% of California voters approved Proposition 8; today their will was overturned by a panel of arrogant judges who want to impose their political agenda on the rest of us."
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling is not the end of the road for Proposition 8.
"The truth will always prevail and we are confident that the traditional-and true-definition of marriage will be upheld by the Supreme Court," stated England. "The voice of the people must be heard and respected. The future of California and American families depends upon the sanctity of traditional marriage. It's time for the courts to recognize marriages' critical role in society and protect it."
Such a shame that the author of that article doesn't have a clue what they are talking about.
My statement, as I recall, spoke to how common marriages other than one man, one woman were. It was not, and was not intended to be logic, just an assertions that a previous assertion on how common such marriages were.
Newt Gingrich's definition of marriage is between one man and one woman and another woman...and right-wingers still support him.
If they really were hung up on this so called sanctity of marriage, they would outlaw divorce.
The bigots are on the losing side of history here, but they'll fight until the end. Imagine what good could have come if the same energy, time and money were spent doing something constructive for our country rather than try and suppress another minority?
I can't stand the gays and the supporters using interracial marriages as a crux for their arguments. Interracial marriage was never banned on the federal level and a minority of states did so.
The difference between the interracial ban and the illegality of gay marriage is that Blacks and others could not enter into the institution of marriage with the partners of their choice.
Gays seek to redefine marriage big difference.
Whose definition? There is no universal definition of what marriage is. Canada, Spain, and 8 other countries perform gay marriage. Many others recognize it. If you want historic precedent of examples of gay marriages, there it is.
Marriage has existed in many different cultures and under many different circumstances. Gay marriage have historically existed in native american cultures and during periods of ancient Greece, far preceding the existence of the United States. Are you going to say that doesn't count?
Marriage is interpreted by specific cultures, religions, nations, etc. It's not for the state to decide what marriage is. That's to be decided by the people involved in that marriage. So that's not even the relevant question.
The question is about what marriages the state is going to recognize for all its benefits. For instance, polygamous marriages exists in many countries. The US won't recognize it. Just because the US doesn't recognize it for benefits doesn't make it non-existent.
You believe incorrectly. On a per capita basis, the 9th is the least overturned circuit (the 9th decides nearly twice the number of cases each year as the next largest circuit - the 5th circuit).
'Per capita' makes no sense as a measure of a Court's reversal rate.
'From prisoners' rights to environmental protection, decisions by the 9th Circuit Appeals court were overturned in 15 of the 16 cases reviewed in the 2009 term by the U.S. Supreme Court.'
The high reversal rate isn't a predictor of any particular decision. Maybe the USSC, if it accepts this case for review, will uphold. I don't think it will.
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You believe incorrectly. On a per capita basis, the 9th is the least overturned circuit (the 9th decides nearly twice the number of cases each year as the next largest circuit - the 5th circuit).
Per capita?
Most overturned court in the country. FACT.
And the main judge in the ruling? The same...he's a radical leftist that is routinely on the receiving end of a SCOTUS smackdown.
The criticism seems hardly justified. Chief Judge Alex Kozinski - the most brilliant jurist in America - is not anyone's idea of a "liberal"; and certainly there is none more conservative than Senior Judge J. Clifford Wallace. To say that the Ninth Circuit is more "liberal" than the Eleventh Circuit is simple nonsense. And as far as "judicial activism" is concerned, Justice Clarence Thomas is the Barry Bonds of striking down "unconstitutional" laws. Study: Thomas is the most 'partisan' Supreme Court justice, Scalia is the most 'activist.' | ThinkProgress
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