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Old 02-08-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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Anyone who votes "yes" on a bill whose contents won't be known until after you vote for it per the explicit admission of your own party's Speaker of the House has no business saying "gee I didn't know" after the fact.
Pelosi wasn't directing that comment to Congress and all those who voted for it were capable of reading it before voting on it.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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funny - plenty people talked about how it was included back at that time. maybe she should have hired better staffers. Funny what politicians say after they are out of office.
I think Obama fooled a lot of people. Trust gone cannot easily be regained.

"In November, New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, held what he describes as an "extraordinarily friendly" meeting with Obama at the White House."
"The president assured the archbishop of his respect for the Church, and the archbishop came away persuaded Obama would never force the Church to adopt any policy that would violate her principles."

"Ten days ago, Obama sandbagged the archbishop"



Obama Sandbags the Archbishop - Yahoo! News

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Old 02-08-2012, 02:35 PM
 
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Thanks for the comedy, I needed a good laugh
Someone once said, "Simple minds are easily amused".
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Is it really news anymore when a Democratard realizes they were wrong?
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Pelosi wasn't directing that comment to Congress and all those who voted for it were capable of reading it before voting on it.
Nobody is capable of reading a 2,500-page bill in the few days between when it was introduced and when debate started on it. The best you can do is hope your army of staffers didn't miss anything when summarizing the bill for you.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Feel free to contest anything I said.
He never does so don't hold your breath.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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Feel free to contest anything I said.
Gladly

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I'm sure lots of Democrats "regret" voting for Obamacare because it has turned into a "thorn in my side" electability issue in a nation where the pendulum is swinging back towards conservatism.
How do you figure? The GOP presidential election has been a three ring circus, the party is in complete disarray that can't back a single candidate, all are losing to Obama in the polls, GOP voter turnout in the primaries has been low, there has been massive backlash against the hard right such as in wisconsin bringing the biggest recall effort in US history by double the amount of signatures needed, the tea party governor in Ohio is one of the lowest approved in the nation, his middle class attacking bill was recalled by the people in large double digit numbers, once taking over the house the GOP has given congress it's lowest approval ratings in us history,..The people gave the tea party a chance in 2010 and are having massive buyer's remorse. The pendulum has swung, and it's going to the left.

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Democrats are dropping like flies this election season by not seeking re-election. This is because the electorate is piissed, and because of redistricting.
Many are long serving congresspeople and it's not uncommon to see people not running for re-election, but the vast majority are. The ones that are retiring are mainly from heavy D safe districts so don't think the R's are going to make any gains (which so far it's predicted they won't)

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The writing is on the wall. Either Barack Obama will be unseated in 2012, or he'll be the Lamest Duck In American History with a GOP House and Senate.
The writing is on the wall, the american people are sick of the extreme right's attacks on the middle class, blocking absolutely everything the dems and Obama try to do to better the country, refusing to make any cuts to balance the budget, causing the nation's credit rating to go down, not to mention all their childish nonsense with the birther crap.

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That's what Liberals get for ramming shiitty laws down our collective throats.
That's what the teabaggers/anti-american GOP get for ramming their chitty fascist agenda down our collective throats
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:09 PM
 
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Default Dem. Rep. Says She Wouldn't Have Voted for Obamacare If She'd Known About Birth Control Mandate

History is repeating itself - more and more people are relearning progressivism is a totalitarian ideology.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I think Obama fooled a lot of people. Trust gone cannot easily be regained.

"In November, New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, held what he describes as an "extraordinarily friendly" meeting with Obama at the White House."
"The president assured the archbishop of his respect for the Church, and the archbishop came away persuaded Obama would never force the Church to adopt any policy that would violate her principles."

"Ten days ago, Obama sandbagged the archbishop"



Obama Sandbags the Archbishop - Yahoo! News
Operative word here being 'CHURCH.'

Churches are exempted from this mandate.
Hospitals and schools are not churches.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:36 PM
 
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Operative word here being 'CHURCH.'

Churches are exempted from this mandate.
Hospitals and schools are not churches.
Like I said, Trust gone, cannot easily be regained. (The word "trust," would still mean "trust" even I forgot to cross the "t.")
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