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Old 02-19-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Baby at 8 weeks gestation





Baby at 9 weeks gestation




Looks like a human baby to me!
Looks like a blob of cells to me. It isn't life until that blog of cell can survive with out the support of the woman's body.
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:00 PM
 
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Seems to me that sonograms and monitoring of fetal heartbeats provide objective, rational evidence that the fetus is more than just a blob of tissue - a human being. That's important because many women at risk for abortion try to convince themselves that it's not really a baby. Out of sight, out of mind.

Yes, there is also an emotional component. God gave women a maternal instinct to protect their babies, and this technology can help awaken that instinct, which has probably been suppressed out of fear.

Murder has a definition apart from the law. It used to be legal to kill runaway slaves. That was still murder.
But some don't think it's a baby or that it's murder. That is your interpretation which is fine. But don't impose and force your views on others. That's the problem here.
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Well, Virginia's proposed sonogram law is a start. That way the mother will see her baby.
Who said the mother wants to see her unborn baby? YOU?
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Who said the mother wants to see her unborn baby? YOU?
I'm sure that the angel appeared in the burning bush again and told him.
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I'm sure that the angel appeared in the burning bush again and told him.
Don't believe that burning bush rubbish, Moses had a hammer and chisel under his robe....
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Don't believe that burning bush rubbish, Moses had a hammer and chisel under his robe....
"Moses! Is that a hammer and chisel under your robe, or are you just happy to see me?"
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:27 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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It's both. Abortion is murder and should be illegal. Until then, we must rely on calmly persuasiding hormonally-charged women in great emotional distress with reason.
In other words, you want the government to coerce women to accept your religious beliefs.
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim View Post

Baby at 8 weeks gestation





Baby at 9 weeks gestation




Looks like a human baby to me!
This is a lie.
Here you go: What your baby looks like -- 8 Weeks | BabyCenter

This link shows development by week.

Try a little honesty sometime, please!
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Seems to me that sonograms and monitoring of fetal heartbeats provide objective, rational evidence that the fetus is more than just a blob of tissue - a human being. That's important because many women at risk for abortion try to convince themselves that it's not really a baby. Out of sight, out of mind.

Yes, there is also an emotional component. God gave women a maternal instinct to protect their babies, and this technology can help awaken that instinct, which has probably been suppressed out of fear.

Murder has a definition apart from the law. It used to be legal to kill runaway slaves. That was still murder.
Keep your religious garbage out of my life.
First of all, if you're using a sky-daddy argument, you have to prove that there is a sky-daddy to begin with.

Abortion is not murder according to the US law.

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No, murder is sometimes legal. Do you really need more examples? It was legal to kill Jews in Nazi Germany. But it was murder.
Great, women are now nazi's for taking charge of their own bodies.
You know that religious crazies were complicit in killing Jews, Gays, etc. during the Nazi era.
Yes, your god people.
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Old 02-20-2012, 04:23 AM
 
Location: North America
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Oh wow an article that references a pro life center pushing for this law, biased much you think?
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