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I am a compassionate person and will help anyone out whom I choose. If I see an immediate need, I have the ability to help.
NOBODY can tell me, at the threat of imprisonment to whom I should give.
One of my cousins had Leukemia about 10 years ago and couldn't get SSI because he didn't "qualify". He worked his entire life.
The family pitched in and assisted him.
Another cousin was a drunken bum and a junkie. He gets $900 a month, his kids (one lives with his brother, and one with their mother) get $400 each from SSI plus he gets food stamps.
He can go straight to hell.
Government has an agenda and will only "help" people whom they see as deserving.
I believe you knew what I meant, you just chose to be purposely ignorant and then give a sob story for some odd reason.
By 'give', I mean employers should pay their employes at least enough money that they can buy gas, buy necessities such as food/water/bills, and have a little left over.
Live life off of $7.25, no benefits, on 20 hours a week or less, for about two months and see how far you get. Then imagine how far people will get if there's no minimum wage law and people get paid a lot less than that. The Great Depression wont have nothing on us then.
I think there both should be one and there shouldnt.
No one should be forced to work for less than a minimum wage, but if they choose to they should be allowed to.
Seems stupid that I have to either live on £70 a week unemployment benefit, or £250 a week minimum wage, but if someone offers me a job for £200 a week, i cant take it, even if I want to.
Yep...people just don't seem to understand the 'welfare' state we live in has been encouraged not so much by laziness as by people not being able to pay for gas and food on the same budget.
Minimum wage is for teenagers. Even then most get a raise within a few months. If you are at a job for over 6 months still making min, thats your employers way of saying he wishes you would just go away.
Live life off of $7.25, no benefits, on 20 hours a week or less, for about two months and see how far you get. Then imagine how far people will get if there's no minimum wage law and people get paid a lot less than that. The Great Depression wont have nothing on us then.
Better yet, stay in school and get an education. Improve your value to an employer so you can get a better job then MW.
MW as I mentioned before just puts more tax money into Govt hands and does YOU absolutely no good. It will be passed on to YOU in higher prices you pay for basic needs like food.
Forget the subjuct of drugs and let's just stick with giving them more cash. More money for non food items like cigarettes, beer, toys, etc does not put food on the table. At least with a food stamp program there is some control at the grocery store on what they can purchase.
With just giving more cash there would be no controls at all. Makes no sense to give cash.
So...let me get this straight...
Instead of having people making enough money, and admittadely being able to buy whatever they want for the most part, you would rather have your money and everyone elses money through taxes go to a program that helps other people get food because their income shows they couldn't otherwise afford to eat, even though the majority do not just 'blow' their money on unnecessary things?
Did I miss anything? If not, you want us basically to become a society that determines what a working person can or can't buy?
The minimum wage is not intended to be sufficient to live on, but to provide a floor for wages. Perhaps enough to pay for food, but not rent unless you have many roommates. If it is half the cost of living, then a skilled worker who gets paid twice that can afford to live decently. Don't forget many jobs are not subject to minimum wage. But back to the question. No, we seem to be on the way to becoming a third world country and minimum wage is not preventing it.
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I believe you knew what I meant, you just chose to be purposely ignorant and then give a sob story for some odd reason.
By 'give', I mean employers should pay their employes at least enough money that they can buy gas, buy necessities such as food/water/bills, and have a little left over.
Live life off of $7.25, no benefits, on 20 hours a week or less, for about two months and see how far you get. Then imagine how far people will get if there's no minimum wage law and people get paid a lot less than that. The Great Depression wont have nothing on us then.
Okay.
Let's run with that.
There are two employees doing the same job.
Person A has a family and a mortgage.
Person B lives at home with mom and dad and have no bills.
Do you believe that one should be paid per their need or the value of the job they perform?
Better yet, stay in school and get an education. Improve your value to an employer so you can get a better job then MW.
MW as I mentioned before just puts more tax money into Govt hands and does YOU absolutely no good. It will be passed on to YOU in higher prices you pay for basic needs like food.
A person's 'value' is not determined by one simple fact. Education helps tremendously, just as much as a hard worker. You can have a PhD and still be a lazy #%&@. Some people would even consider a hard worker more valuable than a college education...in some ways I could even agree, some things a school can't teach and it could even be indocterination. You also need to understand the price of school and availability to pay for it.
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