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View Poll Results: What do you consider your general stance on "social" issues to be?
Very liberal 31 40.26%
Liberal 23 29.87%
Conservative / traditionalist 10 12.99%
Very conservative / traditionalist 13 16.88%
Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-26-2012, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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It's a convoluted question for most of us:

I am quite open on censorhip/atrtistic freedom, "soft" drug use and consensual sex; but I also believe that a individual should be fully accountable for his/her actions when another individual is wronged (Note that I'm NOT buying into the idea of protection of a "common interest" or the "public good" -- whatever that is).

The "basic" issues are a lot thornier; after a lot of soul-searching I made a conscious decision never to sire children because of a history of both physical deformities and autism in my family. But I don't think I could bring myself to abort a preganacy even if I knew one of those outomes to be likely -- I personally have a minor, but noticeable deformity. So which side to take? Is it worse to force my views on someone else, or to let a shallow mindset take the easy way out -- at the expense of a "potential someone" who has no say in the matter?
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Is it worse to force my views on someone else, or to let a shallow mindset take the easy way out -- at the expense of a "potential someone" who has no say in the matter?
You know, there is a difference between having different beliefs than you and having a "shallow mindset", don't you?
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas
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MAJOR SOCIAL ISSUES

* Abortion I personally believe abortion is immoral, but I'm pro-choice. It should be up to the woman, because not everybody shares my morality.
* Same-sex marriage In favor. I've seen no logical argument against same-sex marriage. They have just as much of a right to love and marry as heterosexuals.

MINOR SOCIAL ISSUES

* Divorce Don't care. Not my business. Up to the couple.
* Euthanasia If the person is terminally ill and consents, I see no problem.
* Morality in media This is very vague... Not sure what it means.
* Pornography / "adult" entertainment Don't like porn? Don't watch it.
* School prayer As long as it's not a prayer organized by a public school, don't care. There's a "moment of silence" for a reason.
* Sex education (none vs. abstinence vs. comprehensive) Comprehensive. Abstinence only education is a failure and you can look at my state of Texas as proof.
* Soft drug legalization In favor. Marijuana is less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol. Drug prohibition is pointless.

I guess I'm pretty liberal on social issues.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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You know, there is a difference between having different beliefs than you and having a "shallow mindset", don't you?
A shallow mindset and a lack of respect for the dignity, privacy and property of others seem to go hand-in-hand; if you don't believe me, take a look at the ditz-bait at any supermarket checkout, or take note of all the simpletons already referring to Trevon Martin exclusively by his first name. It's not the case that they can't improve themselves -- most of them just don't see it as worth the effort.

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Old 03-26-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I'm in favor of decriminalizing marijuana and making tobacco illegal. Guess that makes me a left-wing commie conservative wingnut.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I'm quite different than most committed Christians. I am very conservative on just about all social issues but for the most part I believe this is a personal choice. I don't have a lot of desire to tell other people how to live their lives. These issues are for the most part moral issues and as we have clearly seen all through history that the regulation of morals by the state is mostly a complete failure amd often worse than a failure. You may wonder how anything can be worse than a failure but it can. Take the case of the "War on drugs" for example. This war on drugs is creating huge organized criminal gangs and making trillions of dollars for these people. It leads to thousands of murders. It fills up our jails with many people who don't belong there. It eats up half the law enforcement budget and it actually becomes the reason for being for hundreds of thousands of government workers who we really don't even need at all. All this and the person who wants to take drugs does what? He takes drugs, DUH.
Legalize the whole thing and I actually think the problem might go away. If there was no money to be made the supply of a lot of drugs might just dry up completely. Anywa it could not be worse than the idiot attempt we have made for almost 100 years to stop people from doing what they are going to do regardless.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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A shallow mindset and a lack of respect for the dignity, privacy and property of others seem to go hand-in-hand; if you don't believe me, take a look at the ditz-bait at any supermarket checkout, or take note of all the simpletons already referring to Trevon Martin exclusively by his first name.
I guess I'm missing something because I understand your two posts individually, but am having a hard time putting them together.

Help me out here. Are you saying people have "shallow mindsets" because they lack respect and are generally "idiots" or are they have "shallow mindsets" because they don't believe a 6 week old fetus is a "life"?
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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I guess I'm missing something because I understand your two posts individually, but am having a hard time putting them together.

Help me out here. Are you saying people have "shallow mindsets" because they lack respect and are generally "idiots" or are they have "shallow mindsets" because they don't believe a 6 week old fetus is a "life"?
I'm saying that the relaxed attitude toward abortion, the avoidance of many of the expected commitments of adulthood, the "dumbing down" of much of American society, and the "culture of narcissism" are all related.

I take a dim view of arttempting to address this trend via legislation, or a struct religious agenda, for that matter, but I wish more people would develop a recognition of it.
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:03 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I'm saying that the relaxed attitude toward abortion, the avoidance of many of the expected commitments of adulthood, the "dumbing down" of much of American society, and the "culture of narcissism" are all related.

I take a dim view of arttempting to address this trend via legislation, or a struct religious agenda, for that matter, but I wish more people would develop a recognition of it.
Hmm. Maybe to a degree. But I have seen women from all walks of life coming to the hospital for abortions. The poor and less educated do account for the majority, but there are plenty of educated professional-types as well. And I don't often see the narcissism you are talking about. Many of the women are actually pretty torn up about it.
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:54 PM
 
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MAJOR SOCIAL ISSUES

* Abortion-against in most cases.I am for allowing it if mothers or child's life is in danger or child is mentally or physically disabled.
* Same-sex marriage-personally against it think its a state issue at most. I think government needs to get out of marriage 100%

MINOR SOCIAL ISSUES

* Divorce-left up to the people getting divorced.
* Euthanasia-allow it. again left up to people who can say themselves they want to end their life or it is in their will.
* Morality in media-what morality? this is a joke right?
* Pornography / "adult" entertainment-more power to them don't like it don't watch it.
* School prayer-against forced prayer think if you want to pray should meet with your group before school or after...no interrupting the school day.
* Sex education (none vs. abstinence vs. comprehensive)-has no place in our schools. Should be left 100% up to the parents.
* Soft drug legalization-all for it.
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