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View Poll Results: What do you consider your general stance on "social" issues to be?
Very liberal 31 40.26%
Liberal 23 29.87%
Conservative / traditionalist 10 12.99%
Very conservative / traditionalist 13 16.88%
Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-25-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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As long as I'm not paying for it, I don't care what others do.
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:36 PM
 
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I am conservative on many social issues except drug legalization... and gay marriage (which is not a social issue, but rather a civil rights issue)
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Whatever check box equals "do not concern yourself with my choices and do not expect me to pay for yours". That is where I am at on social issues.
I don't know if you voted or not, but that would certainly be the "liberal" side.

A person is generally labeled a "social conservative" because they want to see abortion outlawed or restricted to exceptional cases (rape, incest, etc.), they are against any recognition of same-sex marriages, etc. They state a strong interest in protecting society and the families that make it up from these ills. A strong example of a social conservative would be Rick Santorum.

A "socially liberal" person disagrees with these stances and believes the individual should have the right decide whether to bear a pregnancy or marry the same sex. This is independent of whether they want the taxpayers to pay for it or not. You can be fiscally conservative (supporting cutting entitlement programs, etc.) but socially very liberal, which I think accounts for the plurality, if not the majority of the posters on C-D. Larry Flynt is an example of someone whose social views are liberal.
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:57 PM
 
Location: MW
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I don't know if you voted or not, but that would certainly be the "liberal" side.

A person is generally labeled a "social conservative" because they want to see abortion outlawed or restricted to exceptional cases (rape, incest, etc.), they are against any recognition of same-sex marriages, etc. They state a strong interest in protecting society and the families that make it up from these ills. A strong example of a social conservative would be Rick Santorum.

A "socially liberal" person disagrees with these stances and believes the individual should have the right decide whether to bear a pregnancy or marry the same sex. This is independent of whether they want the taxpayers to pay for it or not. You can be fiscally conservative (supporting cutting entitlement programs, etc.) but socially very liberal, which I think accounts for the plurality, if not the majority of the posters on C-D. Larry Flynt is an example of someone whose social views are liberal.
Santorum is a bible-thumping nutcase. I wouldn't label all conservatives as sharing his beliefs.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Santorum is a bible-thumping nutcase. I wouldn't label all conservatives as sharing his beliefs.
Not all fiscal conservatives or even less fervent social conservatives do, but one has to admit that he is a strong and current example of "Very social conservative / traditionalist". He is the archetypal social conservative.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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Not all fiscal conservatives or even less fervent social conservatives do, but one has to admit that he is a strong and current example of "Very social conservative / traditionalist". He is the archetypal social conservative.

I think you've confused a conservative with a zealot. Not the same. Quite opposite in fact.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:34 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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For social issues and social issues alone, what do you consider yourself to be?

For those who are unsure of what "social" issues are, they are such things as:

MAJOR SOCIAL ISSUES

* Abortion This is a tough one for me, but ultimately it is the woman's right to choose.
* Same-sex marriage 2 gay people getting married, has no bearing whatsoever on my marriage. The government should stay the HELL out of people's bedrooms!

MINOR SOCIAL ISSUES

* Divorce My parents divorced when I was very young. Divorce sucks, which is why you should make sure that when you decide to marry someone that you've thought it out completely. In the end, if you can't look at your spouse, and consider them your best friend, then it ain't gonna work.
* Euthanasia I don't have an issue with this. Were I in the position where nothing further could be done, and I'm suffering, I'd want someone to pull the damn plug.
* Morality in media We should NOT rely on the media for our moral compass! I take anything that I see on tv whether media, or entertainment with a grain of salt.
* Pornography / "adult" entertainment If you don't like it, don't watch it. Again, this is something that has no bearing on my personal life. In fact every once in awhile, it's nice to watch an adult film with your spouse to enhance things a bit.
* School prayer No problem with it. I believe in God.
* Sex education (none vs. abstinence vs. comprehensive) Of course abstinence is the best option, but it doesn't hurt for kids to be smart about sex. The parents do need to have a hand in teaching their kids about it. My wife and I are DEFINITELY going to have that talk with our son!
* Soft drug legalization I fully support legalization of pot! I don't condone use of harder drugs, but don't think that it should be a criminal issue, as it does nothing to solve the problem or rehabilitate that person. But it only creates more problems. The only drug that I think that I would not support to legalize is meth!

Choose one. Note that I have intentionally not included a "centrist" option. You be the judge as to what category you put yourself in.
My responses are in blue.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:36 AM
 
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As long as I'm not paying for it, I don't care what others do.
what he said!
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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For social issues and social issues alone, what do you consider yourself to be?

For those who are unsure of what "social" issues are, they are such things as:

MAJOR SOCIAL ISSUES

* Abortion
* Same-sex marriage

MINOR SOCIAL ISSUES

* Divorce
* Euthanasia
* Morality in media
* Pornography / "adult" entertainment
* School prayer
* Sex education (none vs. abstinence vs. comprehensive)
* Soft drug legalization

Choose one. Note that I have intentionally not included a "centrist" option. You be the judge as to what category you put yourself in.
-Abortion- I favor overturning Roe v Wade. Personally I think abortion should only be legal for rape and cases where the pregnancy poses a threat or risks the mother's life.
-Same sex marriage- Marriage is between one man and one woman. Homosexuals can get married. A gay guy can marry a woman and a lesbian can marry a man.
-Divorce- No fault divorce laws should be over turned and allowed for cases of abuse, rape, adultery, etc.
-Euthanasia- No, it shouldn't be legal.
-Morality in media- the media should be strictly neutral. Not favoring one side over another as is seen with the liberal bias now.
-Porn- creates problems in terms of addiction
-School prayer- favor school prayers
-Sex education- should be consisted of abstinence until marriage, information about STDs, contraceptive devices, birth control and pregnancy
-Soft drug legalization- no drugs should be legal.
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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On the major issues...

Abortion
"A lot of so-called conservatives don't know what the word [Pro-Choice] means. They think I've turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right."
-Barry Goldwater, 1994

Same-sex marriage
"I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
-Barry Goldwater, 1994

On minor issues...

Divorce
"I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
-Barry Goldwater, 1994

Euthanasia
"I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
-Barry Goldwater, 1994

Morality in media
"I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
-Barry Goldwater, 1994

Pornography / "adult" entertainment
"I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."

-Barry Goldwater, 1994

School prayer
"I've spent quite a number of years carrying the flag of the 'Old Conservatism.' And I can say with conviction that the religious issues of these groups have little or nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics. The uncompromising position of these groups is a divisive element that could tear apart the very spirit of our representative system, if they gain sufficient strength."
- Barry Goldwater, 1981

Sex education (none vs. abstinence vs. comprehensive)
"I've spent quite a number of years carrying the flag of the 'Old Conservatism.' And I can say with conviction that the religious issues of these groups have little or nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics. The uncompromising position of these groups is a divisive element that could tear apart the very spirit of our representative system, if they gain sufficient strength."
- Barry Goldwater, 1981

Soft drug legalization
"I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
-Barry Goldwater, 1994

I guess, I'm as "very liberal" on social issues as Barry Goldwater was.
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