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If you are smart enough to go to college, even a community college, you should be smart enough to find out WHICH courses ARE transferable.
DO NOT take courses that are NOT transferable.
NONE are transferable if they are too old. GMU has a website so you can map your CC credits to comparable GMU classes. They also tell you at CC which class sections to take if you intend to transfer to a univeristy in the state.
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That's great, but not everyone can qualify for loans or to pay for college out of pocket right out of school.
I also did that in my mid-20's while working. (community to state) I couldn't afford to do that until then, and I couldn't qualify for anything until after age 24 due to my Father's income.
Anyone with access to a public library can get an education for free if they work at it. It's the piece of paper that many believe proves you're educated that costs $$$$.
If you are smart enough to go to college, even a community college, you should be smart enough to find out WHICH courses ARE transferable.
DO NOT take courses that are NOT transferable.
The problem is that if you wait too long to go to university after getting your AA, requirements change, and in 10 years, those courses might not transfer.
I applaud the fact that you people could discuss this subject through page #1 without trashing the unions. I did not read pages 2 through 6 however....
If you are smart enough to go to college, even a community college, you should be smart enough to find out WHICH courses ARE transferable.
DO NOT take courses that are NOT transferable.
So let's go down memory lane:
I joined the military, I served my country, I participated in the GI Bill program. I got out, I found a place to live, I got settled, I had a job. I decided it was time to get myself to college.
I didn't have the money or the means to afford the four year University, (which would have been UDub, as they call it or UW), so I decided to get in to a community college and get started. I had my GI Bill, I had my Pell Grant, I was able to afford to take my classes.
I received over 111 credits in two years.
Now it's time to move on to a four year.
Except, even with the GI Bill or a grant, I still could not afford it. So I worked more. Saved.
Guess what? All those English classes, Math classes, Science classes, Economics and other electives?
NONE OF THEM TRANSFERRED OVER BECAUSE TOO MUCH TIME HAD PASSED!
It's not a matter of, "oh just don't take classes that don't transfer" it's no matter WHAT you take, if too much time passes, guess what?!?!!
YOU GET TO START ALL OVER!
So, again, while everyone has the OPPORTUNITY, it is NOT as easy as some on here make it out to be. Some of us have to find our own money to do it, sometimes it's not enough money, sometimes we CAN'T get the student loans, sometimes we work and save and sometimes, it just sucks all to hell when all that hard work goes swirling down the drain and you have start at square one.
As for some companies requiring certain degrees to be eligible for employment...a degree is merely a piece of paper. You've spent thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars for someone to say, "Ok, they sat in class" cause I've met a whole hell of a lot of people with BA or BS and they are dumb as a box of rocks.
But hey, employers are ok with that as long as they have that piece of paper. It's like the person said above, you can get your education for free if you have access to a library but that doesn't count if you aren't holding a piece of paper that says you're "edumacated".
I respect people who have college degrees, I do not myself. I went to about 1 1/2 years of college and just couldn't take the boredom. I had to get my life started.
I think a college degree at least assures an employer that you can write a good letter, should be reasonably well spoken and can finish a difficult task.
But one thing I've learned in my life, there are many people who HIDE behind a college degree who just aren't very bright. The smartest people I have ever met do not have degrees, they are doers, not desk monkeys.
College isn't for everyone. Some students would do better in an apprentice program than in college prep classes, and anything beyond 10th grade isn't going to help them later in life. They should get the core education, which isn't that intensive and then switch them to a different track toward learning a skill/trade that they can use to become an apprentice.
its available but most dont take it. working the system has injured many. a system that was designed at the request of their grandparents.
this is a colorless tragedy.
wasps and AA both waste resources.
parental support of those charged with teaching our young a trade and literacy would be appreciated. too many are too busy defending their baby from a judgemental and sterotyping society or wanting their baby to figure out (for the next 25 years) for themselves what is their chosen profession. that judgemental and sterotyping society system is going to eat them alive in a few years. they need to learn to read and get a trade now.
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I respect people who have college degrees, I do not myself. I went to about 1 1/2 years of college and just couldn't take the boredom. I had to get my life started.
I think a college degree at least assures an employer that you can write a good letter, should be reasonably well spoken and can finish a difficult task.
But one thing I've learned in my life, there are many people who HIDE behind a college degree who just aren't very bright. The smartest people I have ever met do not have degrees, they are doers, not desk monkeys.
I actually worked for a company that hired a young woman with an English Degree from a generally well regarded state college, she had difficulty writing a coherent sentence. Your points are well taken.
I actually worked for a company that hired a young woman with an English Degree from a generally well regarded state college, she had difficulty writing a coherent sentence. Your points are well taken.
My company won't hire purely on degrees, but if there are two applicants with similar skill set (that is why we have interviews), the one with greater academic qualification will be preferred.
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