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Old 03-28-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Crowntown
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It's very idealized. It sounds nice to some people (right-wingers, not to me), but in theory it would not work. It's the polar opposite to communism in that regard.
If all social services in this country were cut except for police crime would erupt like we have never seen. Millions of normally honest hardworking folks now unable to go to school or get a job or even feed and cloth themselves would resort to crime.

Large street gangs and mafias with numbers that resemble armies would rise up and take political control. When 200 million Americans don't have access to education the police don't stand a chance. Middle and working class low crime neighborhoods overnight would turn into war torn ghettos where drug dealers and extortionists murder each other with automatic weapons and hand grenades.

Racial tensions would go thru the roof and a race war or genocide would be likely as poor and working class neighborhoods of different ethnicities take each other to war in the street for control of the black market, which would be lucrative considering it would be the only opportunity that 90% of Americans would have to obtain upward mobility or even feed there families.

The police would only work areas like Beverly hills and marthas vineyard, only the super rich areas would be places where criminals backed by entire neighborhoods of lawless gangsters don't shoot at sight at law enforcement in groups of 10 or more, armed with military grade weapons. Said super rich neighborhoods would become extremely isolated police states, almost countries unto themselves. Thats the only way the rich would be able to protect themselves from the newly developed hopeless ghetto caste that will rob and kill them just to feed there children that outnumbers them 10 million for every one.


The government system that Ayn Rand is describing really is an exact replica of much every third world country on the globe, and the polar opposite of every first world country. To put it simply, its idiotic.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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Science is not altruism
my point is, she makes it sound like we are only supposed to care about ourselves and those close to us and that's it. Research scientists look for cures, advancements to move all of society along.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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"No government except the police, courts of law, and the armed services.No regulation of anything by any government.
No Medicare or Medicaid.No Social Security.No public schools.No public hospitals.No public anything, in fact. Just individuals, each looking out for himself, not asking for help or giving help to anyone."

sounds good to me, when does it start?
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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No education?

we will end up with even more ignorant Americans like the ones in this video

Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" Rally - Interviews With Participants - YouTube
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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No education?

we will end up with even more ignorant Americans like the ones in this video

Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" Rally - Interviews With Participants - YouTube

ever hear of homeschool or private school? obviously not by your post.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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"No government except the police, courts of law, and the armed services.No regulation of anything by any government.
No Medicare or Medicaid.No Social Security.No public schools.No public hospitals.No public anything, in fact. Just individuals, each looking out for himself, not asking for help or giving help to anyone."
Sounds like a third world hell hole or a scene from Mad Max.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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ever hear of homeschool or private school? obviously not by your post.
yeah because everybody can afford to stay home and teach their kids and everybody can afford to send their kids to private schools.

a lot of people who home school their kids, teach them the bible and about god, so they leave even dumber than before.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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Sounds like a third world hell hole or a scene from Mad Max.

better than the current federal goverment. it is the way it should have always been.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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better than the current federal goverment. it is the way it should have always been.

While at the same time you've probably claimed more than once in your lifetime that you live in the greatest nation on earth with more rights and freedoms than any other nation.

Kinda like having your cake and eat'n it too, wouldn't you say?

It always makes me wonder how the very people who've benefited throughout their lives from so many of the features of U.S. society in general can then turn around and suggest complete anarchy would be a preferrable existance.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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better than the current federal goverment. it is the way it should have always been.
I'll take living in modern day USA over Liberia or Somalia, no contest
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