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Hey Einstein... If you don't resist, there is no physical violence.
If you say NO, there may or may not be physical violence, because now he hates you for not doing what he said to do.
It can be a hate crime, because he hates the fact, you have more than them.
Its insane, isnt it. Its an absurd comparison, given there are thousand's of motiveless crimes anyway, but im supposed to be more angry at someone who breaks my leg out of disagreeing with my sexual orientation than i would be if they broke my leg to thieve me?
My leg is broken, thats the important bit. I dont care what is going on in the mind of the offender, all i care about is his aggression toward me.
I dont really care what their motivation is for breaking it, it still broken.
Whether they want to trample upon my personal or property rights is irrelevant, the action of aggression/force is the only factor of issue.
Isn't it interesting that the same people blame the victim, in this case and in the Martin case.
I suppose all that matters is the race and/or sexual persuasion of the victim.
If they are black, blame the victim.
If they are gay, blame the victim.
Simple as that...
And, if the guy 'stood his ground' and shot this woman, well, none of these people would be on his side...guaranteed.
I noticed this as well. I looked at this woman's facebook page and she certainly doesn't come across as a nice little old lady. The people here defending this woman, who clearly assaulted someone are also defending a murderer...there is a pattern here. These people belong to a pitchfork crew...they have no issue with violence as long as it is against, blacks, gays, latinos -anyone that is not a straight white person and they may make exceptions for some minorites if they are conservative.
As classy as being a homosexual who feels that he is a victim for simply being a homosexual?
Your defense of "sentence enhancements" makes it clear that you feel that being a homosexual is a victimhood circumstance.
Oh please. It has nothing to do with a homosexual feeling he's a victim for being homosexual. Bias-motivation laws address the bias motivations of the criminals, not the victims.
Could you point me to a specific post where someone blamed the victim in this thread?
Every post I've seen is just debating whether the lady should be charged with assault or a hate crime.
Saying thing like "homos with hurt feelings", blaming the victim for not taking the woman's cane and walking away, and calling him a wimp insinuate that this is somehow his fault and that he should not have called the police on her.
Does everyone who has defended Zimmerman's use of lethal force during a fist fight support this man shooting Granny dead as she came at him with her cane?
No. To be a so-called "hate crime," the crimes must be motivated, in part, because of the person's race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc. That's why they're called "bias motivated" sentence enhancement laws.
All of which is irrelevant. Islam for example is a supremacist Ideology. It thinks of non-believers of heathen infidel who should be pitied at best, slain on an industrial scale at worst.
This doesn't bother me until one of them initiates force upon my person. They can hate non-believers all they want for all I care, so long as it remains non-violent.
Force is the relevant issue, not 'hate' motivation. There is nothing else of relevance. I'll bet a significant minority of americans agree with the granny, should they be charged too on that basis?
That is what you are saying when you change the definition of crime from force/action to belief/intent.
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