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Old 04-02-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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Arming the law abiding gives them a chance against this stuff. I don't know where you get the idea this stuff doesn't happen elsewhere, but Europe and other places have had school shootings as bad as this.
Nothing a quick Google search wouldn't reveal. But the libbies will have not have any of that fact based stuff.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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Shooting sprees account for a very small number of the 15,000+ murders that take place in the US each year, in any case. Our per capita murder rate has traditionally been higher than that of other developed countries, going back for several decades. It's simply one of the facts of life in the US.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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This is sad and unfortunate, whyever it happened, whoever did it.

Those of you claiming it happened because of politics you don't like, or hoping it was done by someone that will allow you to gleefully grind your political axe, are vile.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:48 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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..............liberal imbelcility pops up again.
Like the imbecility of:


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False flag. Thank you union thugs.
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Blaming unions for bombing a Planned Parenthood clinic?

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Nothing a quick Google search wouldn't reveal. But the libbies will have not have any of that fact based stuff.

WHERE's the "fact based stuff" supporting that imbecilic allegation?
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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This is sad and unfortunate, whyever it happened, whoever did it.

Those of you claiming it happened because of politics you don't like, or hoping it was done by someone that will allow you to gleefully grind your political axe, are vile.
I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess that the shooter has some connection to the school, is angry about something, and just flipped out. It's not something that is due to race, religion, age, etc.

When somebody flips out, or "goes off," all bets are off. There's really no other way of explaining how a person could stand in a classroom and, in cold blood, gun down innocent civilians.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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Condolences to the students and faculty of this sad tragedy.

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Officer Johnna Watson did not give any other details about the suspect. Authorities earlier described him as a heavyset Korean man in his 40s wearing khaki clothing.
I thought lone gunmen with an axe to grind against society were mostly white guys. Sigh.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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Arming the law abiding gives them a chance against this stuff. I don't know where you get the idea this stuff doesn't happen elsewhere, but Europe and other places have had school shootings as bad as this.
Taking me out of context won't fly and mis-quoting won't either.

I neither stated it doesn't happen elsewhere nor implied it already hadn't.

I stated "to the same extent" and you'll convince the world pigs can fly before your comparisons of what has happened elsewhere equates in any way to the MANY school shootings that have happened in the U.S.

You are obviously a student of the word "tragedy" and have narrowed it to it's finest definition of how many students must die to constitute a tragedy. What, may I ask, is that number?

You do also realize that cops are all armed and how many of them are killed each year by nutbars with guns while armed citizens are perhaps within yards and have no effect on the deed at all. Senator Gifford and others getting shot in Az, one of the per-capita highest for armed citizens, and not one of the bystanders were armed? C'mon get real here, you could arm the entire population and all it would achieve is more people dying not less.

One student/person dying from a shooting is a tragedy and I guarandamntee you, any nutbar is going to get the drop on all of you with your glocks in your backpacks or desks or janitor aprons and get some of you before you end his spree. The only "tragedy" you will have prevented by arming MORE idiots in schools is the subsequent trial of the perp.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:33 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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My heart does go out to the families of those who lost loved ones. These hororible incidents that happen across this Country, today it happened to be in my State. Not in my area, but in my State. I do not believe are becasue of religious, or political value, people are going mad, they are losing it, for the smallest of reasons, people have lost beeing rationale.
They choose to take out their anger, in the innocent, nothing rationale about that.
Here is another very sad tragedy.
The sad reality, is those who cannot handle pressure, take out their frustrations on the innocent. They just updated on a newstation out here 1O HAVE BEEN SHOT, 7 now pronounced dead.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:48 PM
 
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Like the imbecility of:




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Blaming unions for bombing a Planned Parenthood clinic?




WHERE's the "fact based stuff" supporting that imbecilic allegation?

Did you ever learn about context? One comment from a DIFFERENT thread has nothing to do with the subject being discussed here.

Just incase you missed this lesson in English:



Context - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:49 PM
 
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I didn't hypothesize anything you did. That has everything to do with the distorted sense of reality that you portray in your post. I mearly stated facts, you drew the conclusions.
My distorted sense of reality portrayed in my post is founded upon these uncertainties: who will decide which persons are qualified to carry within school environs?
Will that person or entity be accountable if the very person authorized to carry is the one who goes postal?
Are you going to rely upon the normal CCW licensing procedure to adequately screen who will carry, from students to janitiors, and be relied upon as a first responder at a school shooting? Let me know how that works out for ya.
How many students are in the typical classroom of today 25, - 30? Without the teacher being armed whose going to stop a fellow student from having a turkey shoot. The principal in his office on the first floor and opposite end of the school? Get real - as in reality.

My goodness; it would seem my distorted sense of reality is bringing all sorts of questions to the forum YOU can't answer.

You stated no facts but merely hypothesized the shooting would not have occurred if the 1000 yard embargo weren't in place. That's not a fact but an opinion based on what?

Perhaps the definition of fact is where you should start before hypothesizing more guns would solve the problem.

I came to no conclusions but stated opinions of my own in response to yours.
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