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You are much more likely to drown in your own bathtub then be killed by a terrorist. I don't think that the TSA screenings have made air travel safer so no, I don't agree that frisking a terrified 4 year old or grandma or me is worth the cost.
You are much more likely to drown in your own bathtub then be killed by a terrorist. I don't think that the TSA screenings have made air travel safer so no, I don't agree that frisking a terrified 4 year old or grandma or me is worth the cost.
Before 9/11 had terrorists ever hi jacked an American plane and attempted to smash them into buildings? There is a first time for everything, and i'm sure the family members of the people had died would have wished TSA been a bit more vigilant back then.
Just as an aside, the hijackers from 9/11 may not have had weapons at all...we really don't know. If they did, it may have been nothing more than a box cutter. They used the planes themselves as weapons. So there's no guarantee or even great likelihood that the TSA would have made a difference. Since 9/11 passengers have successfully carried box cutters onto planes.
You are much more likely to drown in your own bathtub then be killed by a terrorist. I don't think that the TSA screenings have made air travel safer so no, I don't agree that frisking a terrified 4 year old or grandma or me is worth the cost.
Yes, I agree
“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” Benjamin Franklin
You are much more likely to drown in your own bathtub then be killed by a terrorist. I don't think that the TSA screenings have made air travel safer so no, I don't agree that frisking a terrified 4 year old or grandma or me is worth the cost.
You're reverse profiling. Oh this small child and grandma look friendly they couldn't do anything. NY/Canada border patrol found cocaine shoved in the legs of an old womans walker.
Looks can be very deceiving.
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Originally Posted by Trackwatch
The TSA agents need to be taught Profiling, if need be, have the Israelis come and teach them.
If you believe the boarding agents, 9/11 would not have happen if they had or were allowed to follow their gut feeling.
Profiling is awful. While we all do it to a degree subconsciously, it's not good.
When you profile, you only target people who look/act/whatever a certain way.
Like all terrorist are muslim turban wearing people who don't wear normal clothes, well right there that's all you look for is "terrorist", when ANYONE could be a threat.
While I agree it sucks, if everyone is checked before flight, then I do feel slightly safer.
TSA procedures are designed to prevent the previous attack, not the next one.
They give an illusion of security but there is absolutely no evidence that they have actually prevented any attacks. Rather, any prevention has been the result of intelligence services of certain countries disrupting them before they happen.
That is not to say that there should be no security at airports. But the current procedures go way beyond what is needed to get reasonable assurance. The installation of new machinery is more about spending the budget and pork than it is about security. The rigorous procedures are more about the 'process' and removing discretion from individual agents than about security. They are dreamed up from the comfort of someone's desk rather than in the real-life world of the traveling public.
As a frequent traveler, I have never had problems with the TSA agents. I know the rules and the procedures so I never fail the screening. However, I have noticed that TSA agents at large, busy airports tend to be more pragmatic and reasonable than those at smaller, less busy ones. Perhaps the TSA staff at smaller airports feel they need to justify their existence or, perhaps, they just get bored.
TSA procedures are designed to prevent the previous attack, not the next one.
They give an illusion of security but there is absolutely no evidence that they have actually prevented any attacks. Rather, any prevention has been the result of intelligence services of certain countries disrupting them before they happen.
That is not to say that there should be no security at airports. But the current procedures go way beyond what is needed to get reasonable assurance. The installation of new machinery is more about spending the budget and pork than it is about security. The rigorous procedures are more about the 'process' and removing discretion from individual agents than about security. They are dreamed up from the comfort of someone's desk rather than in the real-life world of the traveling public.
As a frequent traveler, I have never had problems with the TSA agents. I know the rules and the procedures so I never fail the screening. However, I have noticed that TSA agents at large, busy airports tend to be more pragmatic and reasonable than those at smaller, less busy ones. Perhaps the TSA staff at smaller airports feel they need to justify their existence or, perhaps, they just get bored.
I agree. The naked scanners got put in place AFTER the underwear bomber was caught.
Now this latest improved underwear bomb the FBI just got would not get detected with current technology at the airport. It's going to be interesting to see what new procedures/equipment come from this latest catch.
Here's the story on the improved underwear bomb.
Read that last paragraph about "implanted bombs".
Foiled plot shows militants seek detection-proof bombs | Reuters
U.S. and European officials said that the newly-revealed plot was part of continued efforts by AQAP to design devices which could get through airport security.
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"While the President was assured that the device did not pose a threat to the public, he directed the Department of Homeland Security and law enforcement and intelligence agencies to take whatever steps necessary to guard against this type of attack," Hayden said.
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U.S. officials said AQAP had also been working to design explosive devices which could be implanted in would-be suicide bombers and there were doctors willing to perform the necessary surgery.
They said implanted bombs were more likely that those built into clothing to defeat airport security though the impact may be weaker.
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