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Old 04-29-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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Meth: rural white person drug

Crack: inner city black person drug

Both drugs are abused by all races, but for whatever reason, meth's lure is stronger to whites, crack's lure is stronger to blacks. Both are destructive and devastating to those who can't get enough.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Meth is something people who this nation passed by can do to make a living. It is one product they can make and sell and there is demand . A community with a Meth problem is usually the place that 50 years ago had a small textile mill a shoe factory, a sawmill or a small metal working shop or metal foundary. If you lived there you probably had a father or a relative that worked there and you could get a good enough job to have your own familly a nice modest house and a fairly new Chevy or Ford. A high school education was enough and you could still get by without one. Go to such a town today and see how likely that sort of career is today. Its gone with the ruins of what was a sawmill, textile mill or factory. Windoes boarded up. The locks and chaines on gates rusting away. The grass on rail sidings that haven't seen a rail car in twenty thirty years. Meth at least beats what passes for welfare in this nation and you might feel better when getting strung out on it! People need to think why things are, it isn't Mayberry RFD or Ozzie and Harriet anymore.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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Meth is something people who this nation passed by can do to make a living. It is one product they can make and sell and there is demand . A community with a Meth problem is usually the place that 50 years ago had a small textile mill a show factory, a sawmill or a small metal working or metal foundary. If you lived there you probably had a father or a relative that worked there and you could get a good enough job to have your own familly a nice modest house and a fairly new chevy or Ford. A high school education was enough and you could still get by without one. Go to such a town today and see how likely that sort of career is possible. Its gone with the ruins of what was a sawmill, textile mill or factory. The grass on rail sidings that haven't seen a rail car in twenty thirty years. Meth at least beats what passes for welfare in this nation and you might feel better when strung out on it!
I know what you're trying to say here. But . . .

Cop-out. All of it. For one thing, in the Portland-metro area, this scenario does not fit, although it might in lumber towns. My point here is that, contrary to a lot of posts, meth is not confined to rural. However, I am aware that mobile "cook stations" in farm fields is a problem.

I had a neighbor who started dabbling in drugs simply because he was a stupid-ass, Period. He had a good job and lost it because his boss got fed up with him checking into work stoned. Before long he was on meth, up all damn night, and I felt compelled to watch our property like a hawk because I didn't trust him. These freakin' tweakers have to support their habit somehow . . . theft. Meth turns people ugly, and their mug shots in the papers look like something from zombie movies.

Most of these tweakers can get off their lazy butts and find a job if they want to. If minimum wage is all they can get then that's good enough ~ it's certainly been good enough for the migrant labor doing the jobs that they "don't want".

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Old 04-29-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Meth is something people who this nation passed by can do to make a living. It is one product they can make and sell and there is demand . A community with a Meth problem is usually the place that 50 years ago had a small textile mill a shoe factory, a sawmill or a small metal working shop or metal foundary. If you lived there you probably had a father or a relative that worked there and you could get a good enough job to have your own familly a nice modest house and a fairly new Chevy or Ford. A high school education was enough and you could still get by without one. Go to such a town today and see how likely that sort of career is today. Its gone with the ruins of what was a sawmill, textile mill or factory. Windoes boarded up. The locks and chaines on gates rusting away. The grass on rail sidings that haven't seen a rail car in twenty thirty years. Meth at least beats what passes for welfare in this nation and you might feel better when getting strung out on it! People need to think why things are, it isn't Mayberry RFD or Ozzie and Harriet anymore.
Not true of socal. There were lots of empty houses form the forclouser mess, but the meth problem predated it. It just got worse. All it takes is an empty house you can sneek into. The cops only show if called if you are a personal eyewitness to a sale and the culpret is still there. My neighbor who's son was staying with her to take care of her started using and cleaned out pretty much everything in the apartment which could be sold while she went on vacation. He had an income and a home. Its horribly incidious and destroys so many lives.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Meth is often made in rural areas away from city congestion because of the obvious smell created when cooking it. Then it makes its way all over the country. People who manufacture meth and/or consume it are usually a-political and don't give a rats patootie about who's in charge. They may not even vote.
Yeah, in a rural part of my county a guy got charged with 119 counts of meth, one for each bottle found. It's believed to be the biggest meth lab find in Oklahoma state history. The meth maker
is jailed in lieu of $1.02 million total bail.

Hearing set for Payne County man facing 119 meth counts » Crime Beat » Stillwater NewsPress
http://www.stwnewspress.com/local/x1...cturing-counts
Earlier this year a big pseudoephedrine bust: http://www.stwnewspress.com/crimebea...phedrine-sting

So who knows just how big the meth problem is in just my part of Oklahoma.

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Old 04-30-2012, 05:07 AM
 
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Have the blue states yet discovered the joys of Meth; or does Meth only appear in tornado alley?

Meth Lab Explodes In Man’s Pants « CBS St. Louis
as i understand it, the ingredients to grow meth are abundant in corn-growing areas. i don't know exactly what the shared ingredient is between meth and corn production.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:08 AM
 
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So, why is it so much more of a problem in MO than, say, in New England?
Because they don't grow a ton of corn in New England; the terrain, weather and soil are not as suitable for it compared to Missouri.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:46 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Meth is one drug that I wouldn't want to see legalized. Dangerous to the user, to those who manufacture it, as well as those around the manufacturer. Ohio has it's problems with meth for sure, but fortunately I've never been around it, nor do I ever want to be around it, or those who are into it.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:00 AM
 
Location: North America
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Meth is an equal opportunity disaster.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Soooo, is there any gang activity tied to Meth?
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