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Old 06-07-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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Man, this is a long thread.

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Old 06-07-2012, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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And by the way... I am not asking you about your beliefs regarding the origin of life.
Yes you are - and for the 12th time - what does ones opinion on the origins of life have to do with the validity of the theory of evolution?

(Watch HistorianDude dodge the question yet again).
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Man, this is a long thread.

Buy Harris Roach Tablets! They'll kill those huge roaches under the sink.
Wouldn't be if HistorianDude would quit pretending that I didn't answer his question - and answer mine - then we could move on. But he wants to go around in circles - whatever. The man's credibility is already shot - but he insists on digging a deeper hole - so I will let him.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Yes you are?
Nope. I'm not.

Let's make it sixteen:

(Everybody watch him not answer again).

Do you believe in creationism? Yes or no?

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- and for the 12th time - what does ones opinion on the origins of life have to do with the validity of the theory of evolution?
Oooh... now you've lied a second time. Let's count those too.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Nope. I'm not.

Let's make it sixteen:

(Everybody watch him not answer again).

Do you believe in creationism? Yes or no?


Oooh... now you've lied a second time. Let's count those too.
The only one lying is you.

For the 13th time - what does ones opinion on the origins of life have to do with the validity of the theory of evolution?

I can go on forever - so if you want to spam the forum be my guess - I'm only asking you to answer a simple question.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The only one lying is you.
Prove it. Link to the 13 times you have asked that question. Shut me up.

Go ahead.

Now... for the seventeenth time:


Do you believe in creationism? Yes or no?
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:26 PM
 
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the Bible writer Paul advised, we need to reject "the contradictions of the falsely called 'knowledge.'" (1 Timothy 6:20)

Some fundamentalists claim that creationism rather than evolution explains pre-human history. They assert that all physical creation was produced in just six days of 24 hours each sometime between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago. But in doing so, they promote an unscriptural teaching that has caused many to ridicule the Bible.

Is a day in the Bible always literally 24 hours in length? Genesis 2:4 speaks of "the day that God made earth and heaven." This one day encompasses all six of the creative days of Genesis chapter 1. According to Bible usage, a day is a measured period of time and can be a thousand years or many thousands of years.

The Bible's creative days allow for thousands of years of time each. Further, the earth was already in existence before the creative days began. (Genesis 1:1) On this point, therefore, the Bible account is compatible with true science.—2 Peter 3:8.

Commenting on claims that the creative days were only 24 literal hours in length, molecular biologist Francis Collins remarks: "Creationism has done more harm to serious notions of belief than anything in modern history."
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:31 PM
 
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Gerald Schroeder, a former professor of nuclear physics, writes: “ The Bible relates in thirty-one verses, in a few hundred words, events spanning sixteen billion years. These are events about which scientists have written literally millions of words. The entire development of animal life is summarized in eight biblical sentences. Considering the brevity of the biblical narrative, the match between the statements and timing in Genesis 1 and the discoveries of modern science is phenomenal, especially when we realize that all biblical interpretation used here was recorded centuries, even millennia, in the past and so was not in any way influenced by the discoveries of modern science. It is modern science that has come to match the biblical account of our genesis. ”
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:32 PM
 
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geophysicist John R. Baumgardner notes: "In the face of such stunningly unfavorable odds, how could any scientist with any sense of honesty appeal to chance interactions as the explanation for the complexity we observe in living systems? To do so, with conscious awareness of these numbers, in my opinion represents a serious breach of scientific integrity."
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:37 PM
 
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Modesty and integrity are also in short supply on the part of religious leaders. After all, where is the integrity in asserting that the Bible teaches what it does not teach? Where is the modesty in putting personal views and favorite traditions above the Bible? This is precisely what many creationists have done.
For instance, creationists often say that the entire universe was created in six literal 24-hour days some 6,000 years ago. With teachings like this, they misrepresent the Bible, which says that God created the heavens and the earth "in the beginning"—at some unstated point before the more specific creative "days" began. (Genesis 1:1) Significantly, the Genesis account shows that the expression "day" is used in a flexible sense. At Genesis 2:4, the entire period of six days described in the preceding chapter is spoken of as only one day. Logically, these were, not literal days of 24 hours, but long periods of time. Each of these epochs evidently lasted thousands of years.
All too often, religious teachers are equally off base when they talk about faith. Some seem to suggest that faith involves believing passionately in something for which there is no solid evidence. To many reasoning people, that sounds more like gullibility. The Bible defines faith quite differently: "Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld." (Hebrews 11:1) So genuine faith is not mere gullibility. It is based on solid evidence, on reasonable assurance.
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