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Oh let me guess... This is just another mockery of people who might believe in something other than the religion of evolution.
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Originally Posted by Big George
WHICH evolution do you consider to be fact? The theory I was taught (as fact) in school 40 years ago, or one of the more modern ones that has proven the older theories of evolution to be completely absurd?
Science is self-correcting. Those who attended US High Schools in the 1950s were taught about Continental Drift and told that the continent of Antarctica had no mountains, lakes, rivers or life.
New information has resulted in self-correcting. Thanks to the Space Shuttle, we now know that it is tectonic plates that move, and not continents. Thanks to ground radar, we they discovered mountains in Antarctica in 1958; thanks to the Space Shuttle, rivers and lakes in the 1980s; and better technology, life in the 1990s.
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Originally Posted by Big George
Evolution is a religion. Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves mockery.
And you base that on what, exactly, your bigotry?
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Originally Posted by Big George
What modern "science" has done is proven that what science was claiming as fact was WRONG.
So what? Science is self-correcting. Which part of "self-correcting" do you not understand?
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Originally Posted by Big George
Thanks for admitting your hateful little bigotry.
Bigotry is an attitude adopted based on false beliefs.
PETITION FOR WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS AD PROSEQUENDUM
ORDER GRANTING WRIT AND WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS AD PROSEQUENDUM
INTERNET CIRCUIT COURT
In the Interest of: The World
Defendant: God, aka Jesus, Yahweh, Jesweh, Yahsus, and the Casper the Friendly Ghost Thing.
Case Number: 2012CF06151825
Custodial Institution: Big George's Brain
Custodian: Big George
Judge: Honorable Mircea presiding
Time: On Or Before 2359 Hours 16 JUN 2012
Further Proceedings:
PETITION: The undersigned Deputy/Assistant District Attorney, being first duly sworn, petitions the Court for a Writ of Habeas Corpus Ad Proseouendum directing that the Big George, said Custodian of the Defendant god-thing, who is now in custody in Big George's Brain, release Defendant to the custody of the Honorable Mircea, presiding judge, so that the Defendant god-thing may appear as set forth above.
Deputy / Assistant District Attorney djaques
ORDER: It appearing necessary to dispel lunacy, IT IS SO ORDERED that a Writ of Habeas Corpus Ad Proseouendum be issued to Defendant's Custodian (Big George) to release Defendant god-thing to the custody of the Internet Circuit Court and the Honorable Judge Mircea, so that Defendant god-thing may appear as required.
GREETINGS: You are hereby commanded to have the God, aka Jesus, Yahweh, Jesweh, Yahsus, and the Casper the Friendly Ghost Thing appear before Judge Mircea on or before the date and time indicated.
I'll be on the back porch drinking Muscat Ottonel and eating cheese. Have your Yahweh-thing appear before me.
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Originally Posted by Big George
The point of the OP is bigoted mockery. Nothing more, and nothing less. And, like clockwork, the anti-religious bigots joined in the charade - oops, I mean, PARADE...
Then produce your god: it's put up or shut up time.
Judiciously...
Mircea
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Originally Posted by iknowftbll
"This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being. "
"I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by men whoe were inspired. I study the Bible daily."
"All my discoveries have been made in answer to prayer."
- Isaac Newton
That's disingenuous.
I'll give you a for-example. It is true that Einstein agreed in principle with the theory of "pole-shift" as put forth by Charles Hapgood. However, at the time, the prevailing theory regarding the Earth's crust was Continental Drift, which was later proven to be wrong.
Accordingly, if Einstein was alive to day, and could compare Continental Drift with Tectonic Plates, and actually see the plates as photographed during space shuttle missions using infrared and ground penetrating radar, would Einstein still support Hapgood's "pole-shift" theory?
No.
Which brings me to the point. If Sir Isaac Newton were alive today, you would not be quoting him, because he would be singing a different song and dance.
Anachronistically...
Mircea
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Originally Posted by carterstamp
I see God's hand in it.
They got pills for that.
Pharmacologically....
Mircea
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Originally Posted by djacques
Well, no, it's not an "accident"--in the sense that it's also not an "accident" that a puddle of water you may see in the road is the same shape as the pothole it's filling. But it's not a miracle either.
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Originally Posted by Fiyero
The moon was caused by an accident and the Earth's rotation has changed and continues to change.
That isn't true at all. Big Red has destroyed every theory.
The difference between Big Red and the Cray Super and Super II is that Big Red does so many billions more calculations per second (than the Cray Super and Cray Super II) that it allows for extrapolation, variance and hypothetical scenarios. In other words, Big Red can damn near think.
1] Under what possible set of circumstances could Earth have captured Moon and retain angular momentum? According to Big Red, there are no possible set of circumstances. That means you can alter the size of the Earth, the mass of the Earth, the speed of the Earth in orbit or its axial rotation, the speed of the Moon, it's trajectory, blah, blah, blah, blah, and no matter what you do, Moon either collides with Earth or sails on by and is never captured by Earth. The Capture Theory is an ex-Theory.
2] Under what possible set of circumstances could the Moon have formed from a bulge in Earth (Pinch Theory) and Moon retain angular momentum? There are no possible set of circumstances. In every case, the "pinched" portion sails off into space or crashes back to Earth.
3] Under what possible set of circumstances could the Moon have formed from ejecta due to a collision with another body (Ejecta Theory) and Moon retain angular momentum? There are no possible set of circumstances. You can alter the size or mass of the Earth, size and mass of the impactor, angle of penetration or attack etc, etc, etc and there is no way such a collision could have taken place without destroying Earth.
4] Under what possible set of circumstances could the Earth and Moon have formed together? According to Big Red, that is possible if and only if the mass of the Earth is increased by about 30%-40%.
Oddly, the original, and oldest written cosmogony (which is not the Hebrew fantasy) claims exactly that. That Earth at one time was about 30%-40% larger in mass than it is now. I will attempt to spell it it out using math.
79,076,000 / 967,264,000 = 8.17%deviation from True Geometric Progression.
As anyone with any common sense can clearly see, the Planets orbit at a distance from the Sun that is in a Geometric Progression and that the distances deviate by only small percentages within tolerance.
Where does Earth fit in?
Earth does not fit the pattern in its present orbit. As they say on Sesame Street:
One of these things is not like the others....
If Earth & Moon originally formed in what we now call the Asteroid Belt, and Earth was struck by a small moon and shunted (along with Moon) to its present location, then:
1] You have solved the "mystery" of the Asteroid Belt: it consists of debris from [original] Earth and the moon that impacted; and
2] You solve the problem of angular momentum of Moon; and
3] You have a valid explanation for the formation of Moon -- Moon & Earth co-accreted or coalesced at the same time; and
4] You have a valid explanation why there is such a thing as the Pacific Basin and Pacific Rim (that was the impact area); and
5] You have a valid explanation as to why the Earth wobbles.
Theoretically...
Mircea
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Originally Posted by JordanJP
Actually, if you take organic compounds (usually containing nitrogen, hydrogen, carbon, etc.) and put them in a beaker and shoot them with a superheated spark (lightning), amino acids can form spontaneously.
That defies logic.
First and foremost, "superheated spark (lighting)" would have been non-existent.
More to the point, the two Nobel Prize-winning scientists who discovered DNA (Crick and Watson) both came to the same conclusion, albeit through different lines of reasoning, that DNA did not form on Earth.
So why would you jump through hoops with some ludicrous nonsense about sparks, when DNA never formed on Earth in the first place?
You might want to do a little more paleo-geology and paleo-climatology: Earth did not come equipped with an Oxygen Atmosphere.
Science is self-correcting. Those who attended US High Schools in the 1950s were taught about Continental Drift and told that the continent of Antarctica had no mountains, lakes, rivers or life.
New information has resulted in self-correcting. Thanks to the Space Shuttle, we now know that it is tectonic plates that move, and not continents. Thanks to ground radar, we they discovered mountains in Antarctica in 1958; thanks to the Space Shuttle, rivers and lakes in the 1980s; and better technology, life in the 1990s.
And you base that on what, exactly, your bigotry?
So what? Science is self-correcting. Which part of "self-correcting" do you not understand?
Bigotry is an attitude adopted based on false beliefs.
PETITION FOR WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS AD PROSEQUENDUM
ORDER GRANTING WRIT AND WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS AD PROSEQUENDUM
INTERNET CIRCUIT COURT
In the Interest of: The World
Defendant: God, aka Jesus, Yahweh, Jesweh, Yahsus, and the Casper the Friendly Ghost Thing.
Case Number: 2012CF06151825
Custodial Institution: Big George's Brain
Custodian: Big George
Judge: Honorable Mircea presiding
Time: On Or Before 2359 Hours 16 JUN 2012
Further Proceedings:
PETITION: The undersigned Deputy/Assistant District Attorney, being first duly sworn, petitions the Court for a Writ of Habeas Corpus Ad Proseouendum directing that the Big George, said Custodian of the Defendant god-thing, who is now in custody in Big George's Brain, release Defendant to the custody of the Honorable Mircea, presiding judge, so that the Defendant god-thing may appear as set forth above.
Deputy / Assistant District Attorney djaques
ORDER: It appearing necessary to dispel lunacy, IT IS SO ORDERED that a Writ of Habeas Corpus Ad Proseouendum be issued to Defendant's Custodian (Big George) to release Defendant god-thing to the custody of the Internet Circuit Court and the Honorable Judge Mircea, so that Defendant god-thing may appear as required.
GREETINGS: You are hereby commanded to have the God, aka Jesus, Yahweh, Jesweh, Yahsus, and the Casper the Friendly Ghost Thing appear before Judge Mircea on or before the date and time indicated.
I'll be on the back porch drinking Muscat Ottonel and eating cheese. Have your Yahweh-thing appear before me.
Then produce your god: it's put up or shut up time.
Judiciously...
Mircea
That's disingenuous.
I'll give you a for-example. It is true that Einstein agreed in principle with the theory of "pole-shift" as put forth by Charles Hapgood. However, at the time, the prevailing theory regarding the Earth's crust was Continental Drift, which was later proven to be wrong.
Accordingly, if Einstein was alive to day, and could compare Continental Drift with Tectonic Plates, and actually see the plates as photographed during space shuttle missions using infrared and ground penetrating radar, would Einstein still support Hapgood's "pole-shift" theory?
No.
Which brings me to the point. If Sir Isaac Newton were alive today, you would not be quoting him, because he would be singing a different song and dance.
Anachronistically...
Mircea
They got pills for that.
Pharmacologically....
Mircea
That isn't true at all. Big Red has destroyed every theory.
The difference between Big Red and the Cray Super and Super II is that Big Red does so many billions more calculations per second (than the Cray Super and Cray Super II) that it allows for extrapolation, variance and hypothetical scenarios. In other words, Big Red can damn near think.
1] Under what possible set of circumstances could Earth have captured Moon and retain angular momentum? According to Big Red, there are no possible set of circumstances. That means you can alter the size of the Earth, the mass of the Earth, the speed of the Earth in orbit or its axial rotation, the speed of the Moon, it's trajectory, blah, blah, blah, blah, and no matter what you do, Moon either collides with Earth or sails on by and is never captured by Earth. The Capture Theory is an ex-Theory.
2] Under what possible set of circumstances could the Moon have formed from a bulge in Earth (Pinch Theory) and Moon retain angular momentum? There are no possible set of circumstances. In every case, the "pinched" portion sails off into space or crashes back to Earth.
3] Under what possible set of circumstances could the Moon have formed from ejecta due to a collision with another body (Ejecta Theory) and Moon retain angular momentum? There are no possible set of circumstances. You can alter the size or mass of the Earth, size and mass of the impactor, angle of penetration or attack etc, etc, etc and there is no way such a collision could have taken place without destroying Earth.
4] Under what possible set of circumstances could the Earth and Moon have formed together? According to Big Red, that is possible if and only if the mass of the Earth is increased by about 30%-40%.
Oddly, the original, and oldest written cosmogony (which is not the Hebrew fantasy) claims exactly that. That Earth at one time was about 30%-40% larger in mass than it is now. I will attempt to spell it it out using math.
79,076,000 / 967,264,000 = 8.17%deviation from True Geometric Progression.
As anyone with any common sense can clearly see, the Planets orbit at a distance from the Sun that is in a Geometric Progression and that the distances deviate by only small percentages within tolerance.
Where does Earth fit in?
Earth does not fit the pattern in its present orbit. As they say on Sesame Street:
One of these things is not like the others....
If Earth & Moon originally formed in what we now call the Asteroid Belt, and Earth was struck by a small moon and shunted (along with Moon) to its present location, then:
1] You have solved the "mystery" of the Asteroid Belt: it consists of debris from [original] Earth and the moon that impacted; and
2] You solve the problem of angular momentum of Moon; and
3] You have a valid explanation for the formation of Moon -- Moon & Earth co-accreted or coalesced at the same time; and
4] You have a valid explanation why there is such a thing as the Pacific Basin and Pacific Rim (that was the impact area); and
5] You have a valid explanation as to why the Earth wobbles.
Theoretically...
Mircea
That defies logic.
First and foremost, "superheated spark (lighting)" would have been non-existent.
More to the point, the two Nobel Prize-winning scientists who discovered DNA (Crick and Watson) both came to the same conclusion, albeit through different lines of reasoning, that DNA did not form on Earth.
So why would you jump through hoops with some ludicrous nonsense about sparks, when DNA never formed on Earth in the first place?
You might want to do a little more paleo-geology and paleo-climatology: Earth did not come equipped with an Oxygen Atmosphere.
Genetically...
Mircea
So what makes it all stay together ? Earth, cells, stars , blood. So why doesn't it all run together?
So what makes it all stay together ? Earth, cells, stars , blood. So why doesn't it all run together?
Because it doesn't. If it seems improbable to you, you are right; but a conscious being that made all of it stay separate seems even more improbable to some of us.
Because it doesn't. If it seems improbable to you, you are right; but a conscious being that made all of it stay separate seems even more improbable to some of us.
The force is Jesus. He makes it all stay together.
I waited all night and your phantom god-thing never showed up.
You're in contempt of court.
Contemptuously...
Mircea
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Originally Posted by Taratova
So what makes it all stay together ? Earth, cells, stars , blood. So why doesn't it all run together?
Uh, it's called Physics, something that goat herders in the Levant didn't understand.
That's okay. Your god didn't understand physics either. Jesus, your Lord and Savior told Joshua to walk around the walls of Jericho seven times blowing a trumpet and the walls would collapse....except they didn't, so your god ain't that bright.
Adhesively....
Mircea
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