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View Poll Results: Should the U.S. government ban wearing burqa/niqab in public?
Yes, it should be banned in all public places! 53 33.76%
Yeah, but only in federal/state buildings, airports, etc. 17 10.83%
No, they should be allowed to wear it 87 55.41%
Voters: 157. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-29-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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Would this ban also include Nuns habits, a Priests vestments and a Choiristers cassok? What about winter coats, you can hide a lot under them... Oooh, ban suitcases especially from buses and planes... OH MY GOD! Ban cars!.. you can get loads in them and lorries and trucks come to think of it, they move around and can provide concealment.......

EEK!... MOBILE HOMES!!!!

I'd best go and lie down and i think maybe you had too.....
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:08 PM
 
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let's just mandate that we all wear bathing suits or birthday suits.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:20 PM
 
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All religions believe in whackaloon invisible sky-daddys.
They are all the same.

So you want freedom for your religion, but not for others.

How christian of you.
Wha?
Where'd you get the idea that I was Christian?
What an assumption!

Even if there were a whackaloon invisible sky-daddy, it would not mean that any religion got him right.

Please don't insult me.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:28 PM
 
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This is a civil matter. It is something that would apply irregardless of a person's religion or the lack thereof.
I call garbage.
Who else but muslims wear a burqua, etc?
Really, this is your response?

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Boy, you really like to stretch things to make a point, don't ya?

We don't legalize pedophilia. It is not a part of the Catholic religion. But even if it were a part of the faith, we would not allow them to practice it under a claim of religious freedom, would we?
Don't like it when someone throws your own logic back at you?
It's clearly a part of the catholic religion. It's illegal, it occurred frequently worldwide by the hierarchy of the church, it was condoned and protected by those at higher levels.
Yet the catholic church is still a tax exempt entity in the US.

What's the difference?
We have proof that thousands of priests raped kids.
Yet, we don't have that proof (of terrorist threat) for burqua wearing muslims.
We only have fear and clear bigotry against them.

If people are paranoid, perhaps they need a medical professional for help.

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Old 06-29-2012, 11:36 PM
 
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If you believe that wearing a burqa is a threat to the public good, then I sumit to you that so is a priest wearing his garb in public, so is a woman wearing a dress, or a man wearing a heavy overcoat, so is every other religious garb worn in public. Perhaps we should all go naked so you can be satisfied that we aren't all wearing belt bombs.

But a religion of pedophiles exactly describes the Catholic Church. Are you ready to ban Catholicism?
The point is, the burkha is a symbol of FEMALE OPPRESSION and has heavy symbolic meaning in regards to women's place in muslim society.


Our Western society rejects the idea that women are second class citizens, has for over 100 years now.

Any symbol of suppression of ANYONE should be banned, much as the Swastika is now.

Previously the swastika was an innocent little religious symbol, it has now come to represent something our society rejects, therefore it has been made illegal.

Our society has rejected Naziism, and its symbols. Our society has also rejected suppression of women, so it should follow that we reject those symbols as well.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:37 PM
 
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Annika,
You are bolstering your feelings with arguments that are obviously in extremes. They do not merit an answer.
Oh, this response is perhaps the funniest in the thread.
Can't answer it, can you?

Hahahaha.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:38 PM
 
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Wha?
Where'd you get the idea that I was Christian?
What an assumption!

Even if there were a whackaloon invisible sky-daddy, it would not mean that any religion got him right.

Please don't insult me.
Isn't that what you're doing to a sizable sampling of the population?
Insulting them?
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Australia
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If you believe that wearing a burqa is a threat to the public good, then I sumit to you that so is a priest wearing his garb in public, so is a woman wearing a dress, or a man wearing a heavy overcoat, so is every other religious garb worn in public. Perhaps we should all go naked so you can be satisfied that we aren't all wearing belt bombs.



But a religion of pedophiles exactly describes the Catholic Church. Are you ready to ban Catholicism?
When I was a girl, it was a religion of whiskery nuns, doddery priests, boring masses and repetitive prayers.

How I missed all the kiddie raping is beyond me. I've got eyes like a hawk.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:47 PM
 
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The point is, the burkha is a symbol of FEMALE OPPRESSION and has heavy symbolic meaning in regards to women's place in muslim society.


Our Western society rejects the idea that women are second class citizens, has for over 100 years now.

Any symbol of suppression of ANYONE should be banned, much as the Swastika is now.

Previously the swastika was an innocent little religious symbol, it has now come to represent something our society rejects, therefore it has been made illegal.

Our society has rejected Naziism, and its symbols. Our society has also rejected suppression of women, so it should follow that we reject those symbols as well.
It's their choice.
The swastika is not banned in the US.
It is still, and will always be, a buddhist symbol as well as a sign of the nazi party.

The christians in the US are trying to push their religion into our laws every time you turn around.
As if they're the arbiters of what is right and good.
It's simply control.

Don't talk about muslims trying to control women (who choose to wear a burqua) unless you're ready to tow the line with christians doing the same or worse.

Women in the US are clearly second class citizens.
Men determine our health care, if we have reproductive rights, are entitled to birth control and/or abortion.
In the US, religious can decide to NOT treat women who have been raped and want a morning-after pill; in some locales they charge women for rape kits.
Based on their religion they can deny pharmaceutical support based on their beliefs (like women are too stupid to know what they want).

Don't talk about any woman in the US who has equal rights.
50 years ago, women couldn't own cars, have credit, sometimes bank accounts in their own names. It had to be in their husband's name.
They were restricted from certain jobs, found it difficult to get into colleges.
Today, comparable jobs for women are paid at 77% salary rates of men.
After all, they were only women.
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:03 AM
 
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If a women choses to were a burqa, of her own free will, why not?
Should governments now be dictating what peopke should wear? What next, will we be having morality police patrolling suburban malls in the west? Where does it end?

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