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Using this argument, Ike's interstate system is an example of socialism.
Infrastructure is needed.. not socialism.. taxes are good but not to the detriment to the people. This is opening the gate to freebees where the working class has to pay .. just when the middle class is getting the shaft with foreclosures . Millions more coming in 2012 and 2013.. the robo signing stopped the flow,,, it is starting all over again and it will be years till they clear. Watch 2014... the employment rolls will drop and we will have a huge depression. Obama is killing our economy when it needs help.
The investors in the stock market will have to exit and growth will be a thing of the past. The money will have to come to pay for the extra health care costs and it will slowing take the buying power from the American people as each year insurance costs will gobble it up.
But there's NOTHING in Obamacare that will force them to do so. In addition, by removing the Medicaid penalty, there's no incentive for the states to 'plug the hole', so to speak.
Sure there is. Raise the penalty, I mean Tax, to higher than the cost of buying insurance.
IMO, the precedence is set to force us to buy anything that they deem good for our "general welfare" and use taxation as the hammer. Get ready to be forced to buy an electric car!
That would have a net decrease in health care costs for the middle class and wealthy. Less unwanted births, less abortions, less child care deliveries and on and on and on.
Topic is way to complex for GOP voters.
Fewer people being born means fewer taxpayers too. Or is a negative population growth a good thing now?
This being a new tax does not reflect negatively on Obama at all. He did not intend for it to be a tax, it's not on him that it got changed to be so. It's on the Supreme Court.
Refuting it being a tax is not possible in a 30 second campaign ad. Showing that it is a tax does fit nicely in a 30 second ad.
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However, this rewarding the healthcare industry and not doing anything to fix what is broken does reflect somewhat negatively on Obama, since he threw his support into it, even though it's not even what he originally went for.
Problem is that he blew his wad on this bill so SP and PO are off the table for a LOOOOOOOOOONG time to come.
President Obama and Congress levied this tax. They refused to CALL it a tax when they were campaigning for it's passage in Congress, because they were still selling the pablum of not raising taxes. Of course, as soon as it got to the courts, the lawyers argued that the "penalty" is allowed by virtue of Congress power to tax. Can't have it both ways. It IS a tax, even if President Obama & his lackeys in congress don't want to use that word.
That's right but they call it a "shared responsibility payment" now.
Very PC. And they didn't use the word "tax" either
Every April I owe the IRS my "shared responsibility payment".
Sounds creepy..very "socialist". I don't like this new collective mantra that we're all one big happy family sharing among ourselves and gladly paying "our fair share".
That will teach the late 20's student with 100K in student debts and a 30K job a thing or two!
And those clever youngins' who opt for catastrophic only and pay out of pocket for their doctor who refuses insurance? They're good to go with the mandate too, right?
I hope they can poll these young student's you mention.
If so, they would heavily approve of these increased health care benefits for them.
You're projecting your right wing ideology on others.
No, Like the new 2.3% medical devise tax, as well as 12 others in Obamacare, as well as paying for people on Massheath, so we are Double burdened with 2 heathcare laws in Massachusetts, which is why either Massheath should be dissolved, or our delegation should work to take out Obamacare.
You state has the option to opt out, and it should already be meeting the baseline since ObamaCare isn't anything but RomneyCare. ObamaCare would have been the proposal with "public option".
To help small businesses, the best solution: Single Payer System.
I agree in a way, but too late for that.
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