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This is my post some few pages back where I stated that
IT HAS NOT REDUCED THE ABORTION RATE. Chile has put up to 200 women in prison a year and that has not stop women from getting an abortion. They rather go to prison then to have an unwanted pregnancy.
What makes you think that if Mississippi becomes "abortion free" or if Roe vs Wade is repealed, Women will not get abortions? They will. They will be more creative and desperate. If they can't, they will probably throw a full newborn in the trash like some of the teens that are in the news.
By this "logic" - laws don't completely stop the behavior it is intended to curtail - so does this mean that you would support the removal of laws against murder from all criminal codes? After all - the laws haven't stopped all homicides from occurring - and in the case of serial killers - they seem to have become more creative so they can continue to kill.
Sounds to me like you think a law is only effective if it has a !00% deterrance rate.
How come some states charge a killer of a pregnant woman with two murders?
After all - that other living thing inside her is just "a parasite" and a "clump of cells" - but murder is broadly defined as the malicious killing of a human being. There are varying levels of malice - but the term "human being" is always present in a definition of any type of murder.
But the pro-abortion people keep saying that a fetus is not a human being.
Well, is it or not?
First off, I'd point out that this question is nothing more than a cheap attempt at deflection. You couldn't answer my question directly because you know such a thing has not happened and to admit such would essentially be admitting that your "abortion is murder" line is a complete joke as well.
Honestly though, I knew this question was coming. My response is that first, I doubt such laws would hold up at the SCOTUS. I could be wrong, but to my knowledge they have not heard any related cases. Second, it mainly boils down to choice. Physician assisted death is legal in a few states, but if you were to maliciously kill someone there, even someone who you knew was going to partake in PAD, you would still get charged with murder. You cannot make the choice for someone else.
There will be those that still do it.
Being legal makes all of each society that does complicit.
There is no "right to kill".
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Originally Posted by jjrose
By that logic, since alcohol is legal everyone in America is complicit in every drunk driving fatality.
Your logic is a seriously flawed.
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Originally Posted by Harrier
No because drunk driving fatalities can't occur until someone who has become intoxicated gets behind the wheel.
By your logic - every driver is complicit for all automobile accidents because they drive.
Let's stick to reason - not fallacial analogies.
Try to follow along, Dear.
I'll make it a little easier for you to understand.
Since alcohol is legal then society is complicit in the harm to every person harmed by alcohol.
The word you were looking for is fallacious, BTW.
First off, I'd point out that this question is nothing more than a cheap attempt at deflection. You couldn't answer my question directly because you know such a thing has not happened and to admit such would essentially be admitting that your "abortion is murder" line is a complete joke as well.
You are using a circular argument: murder is illegal - abortion is legal - therefore abortion is not murder.
How come some states charge a killer of a pregnant woman with two murders?
After all - that other living thing inside her is just "a parasite" and a "clump of cells" - but murder is broadly defined as the malicious killing of a human being. There are varying levels of malice - but the term "human being" is always present in a definition of any type of murder.
But the pro-abortion people keep saying that a fetus is not a human being.
Well, is it or not?
That goofy argument has been explained and explained.
For the slower:
It has to do with your hatred of "choice". The pregnant woman gets to decide whether to have the baby or not, it's her body, her choice.
A murder takes that choice away from her as YOU want to do.
And i do believe the law on murder of a pregnant woman does have term limits...in some states.
It has to do with your hatred of "choice". The pregnant woman gets to decide whether to have the baby or not, it's her body, her choice.
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Assuming that the woman had consensual sexual relations - she decided to have the baby when she got undressed.
We aren't talking about the woman's body - we are discussing the body of a new human life.
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