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Old 08-01-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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there's nothing abnormal about opposing same-sex marriage.

Same sex marriage is just illogical and ridiculous.

 
Old 08-01-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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there's nothing abnormal about opposing same-sex marriage.
I didn't say you opposing same sex marriage is abnormal. I said your attitude toward gays is abnormal.

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Same sex marriage is just illogical and ridiculous.
Your opinion.
 
Old 08-01-2012, 08:15 PM
 
Location: TX
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Same sex marriage is just illogical and ridiculous.
Don't hate them because they're better at making a marriage last than you...

Study: Same Sex Couples Have Lower Divorce Rates Than The Straights
FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Divorce Rates Higher in States with Gay Marriage Bans

Or because they haven't given you a reason to deny them their right to adopt...

APA Policy Statement: Sexual Orientation, Parents, & Children
Studies of same-sex parenting

Or because they may actually be better parents...

A child's life in a "gay" household

 
Old 08-01-2012, 08:37 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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seeing as it's only around 2% of the population that is homo, then it must be considered abnormal.
I represent even less of the population, as a natural redhead and a Jew... guess that makes me abnormal (like I didn't already know that, LOL), but does it mean I should have restricted/fewer rights? And does that also mean you should have the right to ostracize & mistreat me? I sure don't think so!
 
Old 08-01-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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there's nothing abnormal about opposing same-sex marriage.
Actually, your opinions are abnormal these days, since more than 50% (around 55-60% IIRC) of Americans now support same-sex marriage. But that's okay in my book, since I don't feel abnormality is necessarily a negative thing - and I certainly wouldn't restrict your rights over it.

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Same sex marriage is just illogical and ridiculous.
No more illogical and ridiculous than modern straight marriages, which are relatively new in the grand scheme of things. Our concept of marriage is much different than in the past, what with women no longer being a man's property, polygamy and incest being outlawed, etc. I'm sure if the people of Biblical times knew how we viewed (straight) marriage today, and how it was celebrated, they'd call us ridiculous too.
 
Old 08-01-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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they may do, but when we cross into the bizarre territory of man marrying man, we may just as well be allowed to marry the tree in our local park.
 
Old 08-01-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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Don't hate them because they're better at making a marriage last than you...
I've not come out with hate against gays, just an opposition to s.s marriage.

These are clearly not the same thing.
 
Old 08-01-2012, 08:55 PM
 
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I represent even less of the population, as a natural redhead and a Jew... guess that makes me abnormal (like I didn't already know that, LOL), but does it mean I should have restricted/fewer rights? And does that also mean you should have the right to ostracize & mistreat me? I sure don't think so!
those are different kinds of 'abnormalities' that you are talking about.

ie: they are not fundamental to the entire body.

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Old 08-01-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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It is not normal. It's a deviation from the norm, which is heterosexuality.
Gross off population is heterosexual, there is no parity.
The historical, biological and psychological norm is heterosexuality.
Normal? It isn't normal to believe in something or practice something without proof that it doesn't harm anyone. Yet we allow people to smoke cigarettes, chew tobacco, drink, take pills that can and do kill people each and everyday, we also allow people to abuse children with religious dogma, none of those things are normal human behavior. But then again, humans aren't exactly normal are we? In fact, we do everything we can as individuals to not be normal. There is no such thing as normal human behavior.

Normal behavior for a teen male is to look at porn and masturbate. Today they aren't looking at playboy, they're watching hardcore anime porn. How does that play into your concept heterosexual normalcy? They are jerking off to cartoons, is that normal? Not really. Is it acceptable behavior? Sure is.

Historically: Well, your side doesn't like the actual historical events as it opposes your belief systems.

Biologically: Animals engage in homosexual behaviors all the time, from life long same-sex mates, and even adopting or tak in offspring that has no relation to them. Humans, like it or not, are animals. But your side disputes that we are animals and that as animals we do what is natural to us. Biologically aka naturally speaking, there is no "normal" sexual orientation.

Psychologically: That is something to be laughed at. I have yet to meet an unbiased psychologist, of today, claim that homosexuality is abnormal, a mental disorder, or some form of illness.
 
Old 08-01-2012, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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there's nothing abnormal about opposing same-sex marriage.

Same sex marriage is just illogical and ridiculous.
Please show us how it is illogical?
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