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Old 07-18-2012, 05:33 AM
 
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Some homosexuals are also pedophiles. That is uncontestable. People can be perverted in more than one way. Sandusky, for example is both a pedophile and a homosexual.
Sandusky is not a homosexual. He is probably not a true pedophile either- more likely a regressed 'pedophile' who has an adult sexual orientation (heterosexual) but molested boys.

Pleanty of evidence of men like this who are straight but have molested boys.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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A gay person is by definition, immoral.
By who's definition? Yours?

Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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Default Gay marriage and morality

If we are to allow gay marriage on the principle of equality what will stop other "discriminated" against groups such as polygamists or siblings marrying siblings to demand the same?

What would be the reason not to let two brothers marry? Since there is no chance of offspring there is no scientific or medical reason not to let them marry. Do you think we have a right to deny two individuals who happend to be brothers or sisters a right to marry? What would be a reason to deny three brothersa right to marry?

To all those attempting to redefine marriage based on the principle of equality: do you realize where this is taking us?

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Old 07-22-2012, 10:22 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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You are responsible for your OWN morality.

Stop trying to think you can dictate other people's.

Christian morality was NOT part of the foundation of this country. Go open a book and read about it.

Bigots who think they know better are the reason why I no longer go to church. I'd much rather pray to God in my own time and ask him to put some more tolerance into other people's hearts than to go to a place of worship where people are full of hate and think they are morally superior than others who have different beliefs.

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"What would be the reason not to let two brothers marry? Since there is no chance of offspring there is no scientific or medical reason only moral one"
First off, the reason why people choose to marry is none of your business.

So according to you, the only purpose of marriage is to breed?

Interesting because if that were the case, GOD would have never allowed unmarried people to breed. Yes, the same God you worship..

What about straight couples who marry and want no children? Do you feel the same way about them too or do they get a free pass because John is married to Mary and not Peter?

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Old 07-22-2012, 10:24 AM
 
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I don't see a connection between same-sex marriage and the fall of the Roman Empire. Sorry.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Yeah, in fact the rise of christianity is often cited by historians as one of the primary reasons for the fall of the Roman Empire!

The Fall of the Roman Empire [ushistory.org]
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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You are responsible for your OWN morality.

Stop trying to think you can dictate other people's.

Christian morality was NOT part of the foundation of this country. Go open a book and read about it
Oh really? The founding fathers, puritans all atheists and muslims?

Thats not the point though. If you allow gays to marry shouldnt you allow polygamists?

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Old 07-22-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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Oh really? The founding fathers, puritans all atheists and muslims?

Thats not the point though. If you allow gays to marry shouldnt you allow polygamists?
Polygamist? if they are consenting and of legal age. Why not?
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Old 07-22-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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If we are to allow gay marriage on the principle of equality what will stop other "discriminated" against groups such as polygamists or siblings marrying siblings to demand the same?

What would be the reason not to let two brothers marry? Since there is no chance of offspring there is no scientific or medical reason not to let them marry. Do you think we have a right to deny two individuals who happend to be brothers or sisters a right to marry? What would be a reason to deny three brothersa right to marry?

To all those attempting to redefine marriage based on the principle of equality: do you realize where this is taking us?
This again? If we are not careful men will want to marry their cars...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nKCsBNhcdU
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Old 07-22-2012, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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If we are to allow gay marriage on the principle of equality what will stop other "discriminated" against groups such as polygamists or siblings marrying siblings to demand the same?
First off, there's already several threads about this. I suggest you take this issue over to one of them. Anyway, if two siblings want to marry each other and are of legal consenting age (being 18 years old or older) then what's the issue? Yes I will certainly agree that morally it's wrong and not worth doing, but if two siblings meet the requirements set forth by the law to get married - why deny them that right?

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What would be the reason not to let two brothers marry? Since there is no chance of offspring there is no scientific or medical reason not to let them marry. Do you think we have a right to deny two individuals who happend to be brothers or sisters a right to marry? What would be a reason to deny three brothersa right to marry?
A reason not to let two brothers marry can be either the mental state of one or both, they are not of legal age, they are unwilling or unable to consent, and maybe they just want to marry one another. That whole "no chance of offspring" argument is rather boring and tired - what about infertile couples or older couples where the woman is past the age of being able to bear a healthy child? Should they not be allowed to marry? Again the whole brother and sister or three brothers argument - if they are of legal age (18+) and are of good mental state of mind to consent...why not?

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To all those attempting to redefine marriage based on the principle of equality: do you realize where this is taking us?
Of course we do - equal treatment for all Americans as guaranteed under the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I mean denying homosexuals certain rights and liberties just because they aren't straight is discrimination at its foulest and goes against the 14th amendment - in other words it's unconstitutional to deny homosexuals the same rights and liberties as heterosexuals.
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