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Old 07-18-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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Cost ..... 2 bucks. Thats not profit, its a vacuum cleaner...greed

If the light bulb was just getting off the ground or the phone....those guys would be todays whatevers raping society....but they did not because they had whats called a brain.
Nobody is raping society. You see, there's this thing called supply and demand. If you charge more than people are willing to pay they won't buy your product and no matter how good your advertising is people will tell you to stick it up your black-hole.

You can sell it for cost but then you'd be retarded because you could never increase the size of your production to meet the increased demand.

You can sell it for as much as you can get for it and not much more and there's nothing you can do to change that.

 
Old 07-18-2012, 09:29 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I hate that f'ing Marxist, socialist/commie talk!!! How dare someone suggest that those who benefit most from public infrastructure should have to pay more toward the support and advancement of that infrastructure than those who do not benefit to the same degree! The government and the public owe every public good to business people!!!

"The expense of defending the society, and that of supporting the dignity of the chief magistrate, are both laid out for the general benefit of the whole society. It is reasonable, therefore, that they should be defrayed by the general contribution of the whole society; all the different members contributing, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities. The expense of the administration of justice, too, may no doubt be considered as laid out for the benefit of the whole society. There is no impropriety, therefore, in its being defrayed by the general contribution of the whole society. . .

The expense of maintaining good roads and communications is, no doubt, beneficial to the whole society, and may, therefore, without any injustice, be defrayed by the general contributions of the whole society. This expense, however, is most immediately and directly beneficial to those who travel or carry goods from one place to another, and to those who consume such goods . . .

The expense of the institutions for education and religious instruction, is likewise, no doubt, beneficial to the whole society, and may, therefore, without injustice, be defrayed by the general contribution of the whole society. This expense, however, might, perhaps, with equal propriety, and even with some advantage, be defrayed altogether by those who receive the immediate benefit of such education and instruction, or by the voluntary contribution of those who think they have occasion for either the one or the other.

When the institutions, or public works, which are beneficial to the whole society, either cannot be maintained altogether, or are not maintained altogether, by the contribution of such particular members of the society as are most immediately benefited by them; the deficiency must, in most cases, be made up by the general contribution of the whole society. The general revenue of the society, over and above defraying the expense of defending the society, and of supporting the dignity of the chief magistrate, must make up for the deficiency of many particular branches of revenue."

Oops, wait a minute. That quote is by Adam Smith, father of modern capitalism, from his seminal work The Wealth of Nations.
Yes. Please focus on your bolded part you ideologue. "In proportion to their respective abilities" = rich contribute the most. I'm sure you can figure out the rest based on their respective abilities. Are you really that dense?
 
Old 07-18-2012, 09:36 PM
 
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Nobody is raping society. You see, there's this thing called supply and demand. If you charge more than people are willing to pay they won't buy your product and no matter how good your advertising is people will tell you to stick it up your black-hole.

You can sell it for cost but then you'd be retarded because you could never increase the size of your production to meet the increased demand.

You can sell it for as much as you can get for it and not much more and there's nothing you can do to change that.

Oh well then... the only way that will work is if the money stays home and the hording...mormon style I'm sure everyone is well apprised of...is outlawed...so regulation and caps are the only answer.
 
Old 07-18-2012, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Yes. Please focus on your bolded part you ideologue. "In proportion to their respective abilities" = rich contribute the most. I'm sure you can figure out the rest based on their respective abilities. Are you really that dense?
Commie!!! Ooops, I mean Capitalist!!!!

 
Old 07-18-2012, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by stargazzer View Post
Cost ..... 2 bucks. Thats not profit, its a vacuum cleaner...greed

If the light bulb was just getting off the ground or the phone....those guys would be todays whatevers raping society....but they did not because they had whats called a brain.

So the work that went into that creation is worthless?

Who's your favorite artist? If he spends two bucks on paint
and creates a masterpiece that sells for a million, is he a rapist?
 
Old 07-18-2012, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Oh well then... the only way that will work is if the money stays home and the hording...mormon style I'm sure everyone is well apprised of...is outlawed...so regulation and caps are the only answer.
And when do you envison the USG nationalizing all companies and implementing salary caps ?
 
Old 07-18-2012, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So the work that went into that creation is worthless?

Who's your favorite artist? If he spends two bucks on paint
and creates a masterpiece that sells for a million, is he a rapist?
Michael Moore is a rapist.
Everyone in Congress is a rapist.
Anyone who buys stocks is a rapist.
 
Old 07-18-2012, 09:53 PM
 
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So the work that went into that creation is worthless?

Who's your favorite artist? If he spends two bucks on paint
and creates a masterpiece that sells for a million, is he a rapist?
Well thanks but thats not a very good analogy. Time painting, training and so forth....what I'm saying and will use your example...if the artist takes a year to paint the picture....cap at 3mil...any more is ridiculous. In time the scaled template in the field would level off

bottom line....no moderation representing work done...money a means of exchange....no representation of moderation an expression of balance in society ..chaos.
 
Old 07-18-2012, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Well thanks but thats not a very good analogy. Time painting, training and so forth....what I'm saying and will use your example...if the artist takes a year to paint the picture....cap at 3mil...any more is ridiculous. In time the scaled template in the field would level off

bottom line....no moderation representing work done...money a means of exchange....no representation of moderation an expression of balance in society ..chaos.

Did the guy who invented the miracle mouth wash just fall off a turnip truck?
 
Old 07-18-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Anyone who buys stocks is a rapist.
I hope that's a joke? I don't see a

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