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Recent discussion surrounding Chick-fil-A and homosexuality got me thinking about another topic related to fast food and religion: gluttony. To some Christians, whether homosexuality is a sin is debatable, but I thought that it was universally agreed among Christians that gluttony is.
America's waistline is ballooning, and I think it's perhaps the biggest problem we face as a nation. It's especially a problem in the Christian community. I found a FoxNews article about this, and it was pretty startling:
I'm a non-religious homosexual, so I'm curious about this, especially in light of how much anti-gay sentiment comes out of some churches these days. Do churches not preach about gluttony to the extent they do about sexual sins? Do churches not discuss physical well-being and its role in psychological, emotional, and spiritual health?
We've seen a rise in pro-gay groups over the last decade, but we've also seen a rise in pro-fat (or fat-pride) groups over the last decade too. Such groups have even successfully lobbied and gotten weight status added as a protected class to some anti-discrimination statutes. Over the same period, an awful lot of anti-gay groups have popped up and we hear a lot of anti-gay rhetoric coming from fundamentalist churches. In debates about homosexuality, I've heard many Christians say that all sins are equally sinful - personally I've never understood that. Isn't gluttony one of the 7 mortal sins? If anything, isn't gluttony a worse sin than homosexuality? Why haven't we see a corresponding rises in anti-glutton groups or hear similar anti-fat rhetoric coming out of fundamentalist churches?
Chick-fil-A purports to be a business that is dedicated to the teachings and principles of Christianity. Is that really possible for a business that thrives off of and stokes the gluttony of others? Is it really any more moral than a Christian strip club? Is an after services Church buffet supper of high-fat, hyper-salted mountains of food really any less sinful than an after services Church gay-sex orgy?
That's because christians are in the business of "Point and Hate".....that's what they do best...you won't find any of these evil hypocrites looking in a mirror.
Absolutely that's where I'm coming from. Again, what got me thinking about this was the Chick-fil-A thread. I was asking myself how can a business that makes millions in profits off exploiting and stoking the gluttony of others really consider itself a business dedicated to the teachings and principles of Christianity.
Chick-fil-a sells chicken sandwiches, fries, soda, and a few other things. Not the kind of food you would eat on a daily basis. If, however, you are wise enough to eat healthy as the rule and enjoy fast food on occasion, there is no problem.
It is called personal responsibility. No-one is forcing you to eat fried chicken every day, unless maybe you are a kid with a stupid parent, but that is not chick-fil-a's doing.
Chick-fil-a isn't selling gluttony and isn't exploiting anyone.
The Lord forgives you for your sins. Once you get that figured out and take care of it with your priest you can do whatever the hell you want. Why is that so hard for the God haters to figure out?
I don't think anyone would argue there was no hypocrisy in church or any organization for that matter but your gonna have a hard time convincing Christians or anyone for that matter that eating a chicken sandwich is akin to homosexuality. Besides, if I were to take a hard line stance against your argument I would say that NOT everyone who eats at Chick-Fil-A is obese and therefore NOT committing a sin but everyone that is gay is committing a sin... FWIW, i don't think either is a sin but I find it a bit of a stretch to argue that because CFA sells chicken sandwiches it makes their stance against homosexual marriage hypocritical. Wait for the owner of CFA to get caught in a scandalous affair with a manager of one of his stores and then come out with your argument, you will have much more ground to stand on.. as it is now, your skating on thin ice...
The Lord forgives you for your sins. Once you get that figured out and take care of it with your priest you can do whatever the hell you want. Why is that so hard for the God haters to figure out?
1. It is possible to dislike Christians, but not dislike God. I posted a quote in the Christian forum about this not too long ago by Gandhi, it goes something like: "I like your Christ, but I don't like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
2. I could be reading the implications of your post wrong, but what I gather from your post is that it is better to continuously repent for your sins instead of trying to completely stop committing those sins? Did I get that wrong?
I agree that gluttony, and its effects, are disgusting. If you want to tie it to religion, yes, it's a sin. More importantly, though, it's a sin against oneself. People who are religious- any religion- aren't perfect. It's normal to make mistakes and start over.
[quote=hammertime33;25357847]Recent discussion surrounding Chick-fil-A and homosexuality got me thinking about another topic related to fast food and religion: gluttony. To some Christians, whether homosexuality is a sin is debatable, but I thought that it was universally agreed among Christians that gluttony is.
America's waistline is ballooning, and I think it's perhaps the biggest problem we face as a nation. It's especially a problem in the Christian community. I found a FoxNews article about this, and it was pretty startling:
I'm a non-religious homosexual, so I'm curious about this, especially in light of how much anti-gay sentiment comes out of some churches these days. Do churches not preach about gluttony to the extent they do about sexual sins? Do churches not discuss physical well-being and its role in psychological, emotional, and spiritual health?
We've seen a rise in pro-gay groups over the last decade, but we've also seen a rise in pro-fat (or fat-pride) groups over the last decade too. Such groups have even successfully lobbied and gotten weight status added as a protected class to some anti-discrimination statutes. Over the same period, an awful lot of anti-gay groups have popped up and we hear a lot of anti-gay rhetoric coming from fundamentalist churches. In debates about homosexuality, I've heard many Christians say that all sins are equally sinful - personally I've never understood that. Isn't gluttony one of the 7 mortal sins? If anything, isn't gluttony a worse sin than homosexuality? Why haven't we see a corresponding rises in anti-glutton groups or hear similar anti-fat rhetoric coming out of fundamentalist churches?
Chick-fil-A purports to be a business that is dedicated to the teachings and principles of Christianity. Is that really possible for a business that thrives off of and stokes the gluttony of others? Is it really any more moral than a Christian strip club? Is an after services Church buffet supper of high-fat, hyper-salted mountains of food really any less sinful than an after services Church gay-sex orgy?[
1. It is possible to dislike Christians, but not dislike God. I posted a quote in the Christian forum about this not too long ago by Gandhi, it goes something like: "I like your Christ, but I don't like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
2. I could be reading the implications of your post wrong, but what I gather from your post is that it is better to continuously repent for your sins instead of trying to completely stop committing those sins? Did I get that wrong?
Jesus also said, If they hate me they will hate you.. the true Christians of course.
Recent discussion surrounding Chick-fil-A and homosexuality got me thinking about another topic related to fast food and religion: gluttony. To some Christians, whether homosexuality is a sin is debatable, but I thought that it was universally agreed among Christians that gluttony is.
America's waistline is ballooning, and I think it's perhaps the biggest problem we face as a nation. It's especially a problem in the Christian community. I found a FoxNews article about this, and it was pretty startling:
I'm a non-religious homosexual, so I'm curious about this, especially in light of how much anti-gay sentiment comes out of some churches these days. Do churches not preach about gluttony to the extent they do about sexual sins? Do churches not discuss physical well-being and its role in psychological, emotional, and spiritual health?
We've seen a rise in pro-gay groups over the last decade, but we've also seen a rise in pro-fat (or fat-pride) groups over the last decade too. Such groups have even successfully lobbied and gotten weight status added as a protected class to some anti-discrimination statutes. Over the same period, an awful lot of anti-gay groups have popped up and we hear a lot of anti-gay rhetoric coming from fundamentalist churches. In debates about homosexuality, I've heard many Christians say that all sins are equally sinful - personally I've never understood that. Isn't gluttony one of the 7 mortal sins? If anything, isn't gluttony a worse sin than homosexuality? Why haven't we see a corresponding rises in anti-glutton groups or hear similar anti-fat rhetoric coming out of fundamentalist churches?
Chick-fil-A purports to be a business that is dedicated to the teachings and principles of Christianity. Is that really possible for a business that thrives off of and stokes the gluttony of others? Is it really any more moral than a Christian strip club? Is an after services Church buffet supper of high-fat, hyper-salted mountains of food really any less sinful than an after services Church gay-sex orgy?[
1% of Jews overweight? Sure.
Why do you care what church people are doing? Who cares? Tangentially, who cares if they hate you? I'm sure that there are plenty of religious people who hate ME (Episcopal). They're free to do so, doesn't matter a bit to me.
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